James,
I have one final question for you. Do you belive that you by the power of the Holy Spirit are able to live in harmony with God's Law including the 4th commandment?

Blessings,
EDWIN

James, you believe the Holy Spirit empowers you to live in harmony with the law of Jesus - not the law of God. You believe the law of Jesus replaced the law of God when He died on the cross. You believe only non-believers are under the juridiction of the law of God, and that only believers are under the jurisdiction of the law of Jesus.

You also believe the basic principle of loving God and mankind is the foundation of both the law of God and law of Jesus. You believe loving God and mankind fulfills the intent of both laws. You believe the only difference between both laws is that law of God requires physical sabbath keeping whereas the law of Jesus does not. You believe non-believers are required to observe the sabbath whereas believers are not.

You believe the difference between non-believers and believers is that non-believers are condemned because they are required to observe the sabbath whereas believers are not condemned because they are not required to observe the sabbath. You believe the burden of truth is to help people understand that observing the sabbath is a sin because it rejects the law of Jesus.

Nothing could be further from the truth.

Daniel
7:25 And he shall speak [great] words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.

Psalm
119:126 [It is] time for [thee], LORD, to work: [for] they have made void thy law.

Thanks Mike & Avalee,

People may try to color the truth, manipulate it, try to re-invent it but the truth will always remain the same. All ideas must be scrutinized by the scriptures as the unerring standard. May the truth of God prevail.

Blessings,
EDWIN

Most people seem to believe we must overcome one sin at a time, as if we can overcome this sin and still be guilty of that sin. But all sins are one sin - selfishness. Every sin comes under the same general heading of selfishness. If we are in Christ we are dead to sin. We are either all of His and free of sin or we are none of His and full of sin. There is no middle ground. No man can serve two masters. There is no such thing as partial birth conversions.

The idea that we must overcome one sin at a time is unbiblical and leads people to tolerate sin and selfishness rather than overcome it. Instead of resisting unto blood they excuse themselves by assuming there is time enough to overcome another day, so why worry about it now, besides their waitng for God to empower them to overcome - as if God is to blame for the frequent failure plan.

4T 384,385
"Another book was opened, wherein were recorded the sins of those who profess the truth. Under the general heading of selfishness came every other sin. There were also headings over every column, and underneath these, opposite each name, were recorded, in their respective columns, the lesser sins. {4T 384.3}

"Under covetousness came falsehood, theft, robbery, fraud, and avarice; under ambition came pride and extravagance; jealousy stood at the head of malice, envy, and hatred; and intemperance headed a long list of fearful crimes, such as lasciviousness, adultery, indulgence of animal passions, etc. {4T 385.1}

Thank you Edwin for you post. I am so saddened by people who think that they can come along and make so light of what Jesus has done for us by saying we do not have to obey God's commands anymore.

Edwin.
You posted February 23, 2004 05:31 AM
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James,
I have one final question for you. Do you belive that you by the power of the Holy Spirit are able to live in harmony with God's Law including the 4th commandment?

Unquote.

What is the principle of God’s law? Through faith in Christ and the Spirit I would produce fruits of the Spirit, I AM IN HARMONY WITH HEAVEN PRINCIPLE’ that is IN HARMONY with God’s law and qualifies me for heaven.

Read Galatians 5:22,23 whether fruits of the Spirit includes keeping Sabbath day holy as according to the 4th commandment.

In His love

James S.

Avalee.

I see that you are a good and sincere law keeper, I am sure if you keep it perfectly you will earn life through your obedience for the law would justify you.

In His love

James S

Mike.

You posted on February 24, 2004 11:24 AM

I see that you understand now that all sin is one sin: selfishness
And all righteousness is one righteousness: love your fellowman.

There is a middle ground; a time where you live with faith but according to the flesh, you have a dead faith and just produce deeds of the flesh. But when the time come you start to walk after the Spirit, your faith is alive and bears fruits of the Spirit.

In His love

James S.

Avalee.


You wrote:

Thank you Edwin for you post. I am so saddened by people who think that they can come along and make so light of what Jesus has done for us by saying we do not have to obey God's commands anymore.

Unquote.

Just follow what the Gospel of Christ say:

The letter kills…….. the Ten Commandments is a ministry of condemnation that brought death” – 2 Corinthians 3:6-9.

So, why should I keep a law that condemns, a law that is God’s means of condemnation to justify that all men are sinners and deserve to die? I would keep “love your fellowman as your self”, the law of liberty, the law that gives freedom, not the law that imprison me in sin.

In His love

James S.