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Pets In Heaven?
#54038
04/30/05 01:42 AM
04/30/05 01:42 AM
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Will there be pets, (birds, cats, etc.) in heaven?
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Re: Pets In Heaven?
#54039
04/30/05 11:31 AM
04/30/05 11:31 AM
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Greetings Brother Daryl,
Please clarify if you mean will our pets here on earth be able to obtain heaven or if the Lord will have animals up in heaven that will be our pets.
Thank you, Your Sister in Christ Jesus, Cheri Fritz
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Re: Pets In Heaven?
#54040
04/30/05 05:28 PM
04/30/05 05:28 PM
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The following passage seems to imply that the animals will be resurrected and be a part of the new earth:
Romans 8:18 For I reckon that the sufferings of this present time [are] not worthy [to be compared] with the glory which shall be revealed in us. 8:19 For the earnest expectation of the creature waiteth for the manifestation of the sons of God. 8:20 For the creature was made subject to vanity, not willingly, but by reason of him who hath subjected [the same] in hope, 8:21 Because the creature itself also shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God. 8:22 For we know that the whole creation groaneth and travaileth in pain together until now. 8:23 And not only [they], but ourselves also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for the adoption, [to wit], the redemption of our body.
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Re: Pets In Heaven?
#54041
04/30/05 06:30 PM
04/30/05 06:30 PM
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The animals cannot be born again therefore, they will not be apart of the resurrection.
3:3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God. John
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Re: Pets In Heaven?
#54042
04/30/05 09:47 PM
04/30/05 09:47 PM
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Does that verse say anything about animals having to be born again?
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Re: Pets In Heaven?
#54043
04/30/05 10:24 PM
04/30/05 10:24 PM
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Mike, yes, but is “creature” referring to animals, or is it referring to creation in general. I think the NASB gets more to the point of the passage. Quote: from Rom 8:18-23, NASBRom 8:18-23 NASB For I consider that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory that is to be revealed to us. (19) For the anxious longing of the creation waits eagerly for the revealing of the sons of God. (20) For the creation was subjected to futility, not willingly, but because of Him who subjected it, in hope (21) that the creation itself also will be set free from its slavery to corruption into the freedom of the glory of the children of God. (22) For we know that the whole creation groans and suffers the pains of childbirth together until now. (23) And not only this, but also we ourselves, having the first fruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting eagerly for our adoption as sons, the redemption of our body.
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Re: Pets In Heaven?
#54044
04/30/05 10:59 PM
04/30/05 10:59 PM
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A good question would be "can animals sin?"
They can dissobay their master, although some donot have the capacity of understanding commands.
If we cannot go into heaven sinning, then animals cannot either.
Animals will defenatly be there. We are told about the lion laying with the lamb. This would mean that God will have to make new animals or the animals that lived on earth will be there.
Either way, it will be interesting to find out when we get to heaven.
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Re: Pets In Heaven?
#54045
04/30/05 11:03 PM
04/30/05 11:03 PM
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Greetings Brother Mike,
Psalms 77:13 "Thy way, O God, [is] in the sanctuary: who [is so] great a God as [our] God?"
If we should look to the works of Christ in the sanctuary we will see that His works are for the saving of mankind. If we are to believe in the writings of Mrs. White and scriptures we will find that there are two resurrections before the 1,000 years begin. There is first the special resurrection which include those that died in the third angels message and those that were the greatest opposers of Christ Jesus, then the completion of those that died in Christ happen. See Maranatha ch. 273 & 274, to have a clearer understanding. The last resurrection will be after the 1,000 years...and this is definitely the resurrection of those who where judged unfaithful.
To make note: Strongs 2937 "creature" is also used in the following scripture.
Mark 16:15 And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.
2 Corinthians 5:17 Therefore if any man [be] in Christ, [he is] a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.
Strongs 2937 The outline of Bible usage 1) the act of founding, establishing, building etc a) the act of creating, creation b) creation i.e. thing created (1) of individual things, beings, a creature, a creation (a) anything created (b) after a rabbinical usage (by which a man converted from idolatry to Judaism was called) (c) the sum or aggregate of things created c) institution, ordinance
Let us remember the work of Christ was for the sinner. In the scriptures is the entire sanctuary message how Christ so loved the world and gave His life that man could have eternal life if he so would choose. The only recorded opportunity to have this life eternal is mankind.
Now, there will be animals in heaven, for the scriptures speaks of this. But never is the animal given the blessed opportunity to have life eternal restored to them. It was man that sinned, and it was God that came to set us free from that death sentence.
I cannot agree based on the sanctuary message that animals will be resurrected.
Thank you for your time, Your Sister in Christ Jesus, Cheri Fritz
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Re: Pets In Heaven?
#54046
04/30/05 11:45 PM
04/30/05 11:45 PM
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Dave and Cheri I too believe that there will be animals on the new earth. I believe God will create all new animals for us. It seems that I have read about this somewhere but I can not find it at the moment.
I myself am looking forward to having alot of pets...birds, a Bengal Tiger, a panther, giraffe, and of course a doggie and a little kitty. It will be so wonderful to not be afraid of any animal and they will not be afraid of us.
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Re: Pets In Heaven?
#54047
05/01/05 02:25 AM
05/01/05 02:25 AM
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When God created the heavens and the earth did you know that He gave animals a soul.They are not stupid dumb objects made to pass the time. The hurt, cry, fear, and believe it or not obey. When they die I believe that it is the same as for humans. We die soul goes to heaven, they die their soul goes to heaven. Will I see my American Staff who was killed many years ago? I prayed to God that He would be theere and perfect to. God Bless, Will
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