Sign of the times?



--Ren

GC 588, 589
The line of distinction between professed Christians and the ungodly is now hardly distinguishable. Church members love what the world loves and are ready to join with them, and Satan determines to unite them in one body and thus strengthen his cause by sweeping all into the ranks of spiritualism. Papists, who boast of miracles as a certain sign of the true church, will be readily deceived by this wonder-working power; and Protestants, having cast away the shield of truth, will also be deluded. Papists, Protestants, and worldlings will alike accept the form of godliness without the power, and they will see in this union a grand movement for the conversion of the world and the ushering in of the long-expected millennium. {GC 588.3}

Through spiritualism, Satan appears as a benefactor of the race, healing the diseases of the people, and professing to present a new and more exalted system of religious faith; but at the same time he works as a destroyer. His temptations are leading multitudes to ruin. Intemperance dethrones reason; sensual indulgence, strife, and bloodshed follow. Satan delights in war, for it excites the worst passions of the soul and then sweeps into eternity its victims steeped in vice and blood. It is his object to incite the nations to war against one another, for he can thus divert the minds of the people from the work of preparation to stand in the day of God. {GC 589.1}

One God, many paths. Possibly true, but there is only one True Path.

Redfog

When will those who boast that they are on the ONE true path realize that this has given them NO advantage? We are still here and everyone still ends up pushing up daisies. This attitude helps no one. It only serves a selfish purpose. So you have the truth. Big deal. How has it benefited the world. I'll tell you. It has not. Every single one of your pioneers is the same place that the worst among men are. When will you realize that you have figured it wrong?

Darius the True Path I was refering to was a man named Jesus Christ. Sorry if that offends you.

Redfog

Where did you get the idea of offense from? Why are Christians so defensive when faced with the awful truth?

Darius,

You are quick to point out where you percieve that others are wrong, but not quite as quick to tell where the error is nor what the truth is (unless you acctually believe there is no truth...). Why not present your view for a change and not just critizice others views..

/Thomas

PS, On experience I expect you to post a wellworded attempt to dodge the question, please disapoint me.

Darius: "Where did you get the idea of offense from?"

Hmmm. I have no idea, certainly it was nothing in your post

And along with Thomas I'd like to know about this so called awful truth that you seem to know of. Please don't withhold it from us.

Redfog

Vaster, please keep your bonnet on. I did not say there was error. I plainly stated that the statement of confidence was of no benefit to anyone, because we are still here and all the pioneers are the same place all the 'wicked' people are.

If you want a truth it is that the Creator has left us with the responsibility of ushering His return and we have abandoned that mission in favor for another.

I hope that was sufficiently well-worded for your consumption.

Darius,

Keep my bonnet on??? Who do you think you are talking with? You said:

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When will you realize that you have figured it wrong?

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Im not quite clear over the difference between saying to someone "you have figured it wrong" and sayin "you are in error". Can you enlighten me? You said:

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I plainly stated that the statement of confidence was of no benefit to anyone, because we are still here and all the pioneers are the same place all the 'wicked' people are.

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What (if anything) do you have faith in? Are you a christian?

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Hebrews 3:14
We have come to share in Christ if we hold firmly till the end the confidence we had at first.

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Have you taken into consideration in your 'truth' that a) we are not left alone in this task, God is still working in behalf of people, the Holy Spirit is behind everything done for Gods kingdom. b) if the sons are silent, the stones will shout.

Wellworded, not qute sure. How about speaking plainly? That be nice for a change.

/Thomas