Darius,

You certainly answered quickly to this new topic in this new forum.

Can you give us some examples of what you posted here?

NOTE: This can also serve as a springboard for discussing specific examples/cases as separate topics here in this forum.

My local newspaper prints a daily sunrise and sunset chart. Am I being given misinformation? Is it possible that the editor does not know how the universe works?

If the sun rose or set because the Earth moved was irrespective of each of these texts and the passages and prophecies and histories . Their thrust was what was to happen, was happening, or was to happen. The fact that the sun did rise and set was visually demonstrated since Earth began to revolve after Earth was only a few days old. The star rose and set not because it circled Earth, but because Earth circled it.

Does Scripture ever state that the sun revolved around Earth ? It talks about it’s circuit in the heavens (Psalms 19:1-6), but does it ever explain the physics of it ?

Numbers 2:3 And on the east side toward the rising of the sun shall they of the standard of the camp of Judah pitch throughout their armies: and Nahshon the son of Amminadab shall be captain of the children of Judah. (Simply a word picture of geographic location - with symbolic reference to the East for Judah. )

Joshua 12:1 Now these are the kings of the land, which the children of Israel smote, and possessed their land on the other side Jordan toward the rising of the sun, from the river Arnon unto mount Hermon, and all the plain on the east: (Simply a word picture of geographic location.)

Psalms 50:1 <> The mighty God, even the LORD, hath spoken, and called the earth from the rising of the sun unto the going down thereof. ( Did God not call, because of Astro-physics dispute over which solar system body orbited which ? God did call. )

Psalms 113:3 From the rising of the sun unto the going down of the same the LORD’S name is to be praised. (Is there no One to be grateful to, because the word picture does not suit ? God is still there. The rising of the sun is an optical determination arrived at by what was seen from the planet’s surface, the mechanics of it’s accomplishment was never offered in any explanation of Scripture.))

Isaiah 41:25 I have raised up one from the north, and he shall come: from the rising of the sun shall he call upon my name: and he shall come upon princes as upon morter, and as the potter treadeth clay. ( a prophetic reference to time, how soon He would daily and all through His life, call upon God, from whence His authority would issue, the servant of Isaiah ch 42.)

Isaiah 45:6 That they may know from the rising of the sun, and from the west, that there is none beside me. I am the LORD, and there is none else. ( An extreme East to extreme west comparison to show He has no equals anywhere.)

Isaiah 59:19 So shall they fear the name of the LORD from the west, and his glory from the rising of the sun. When the enemy shall come in like a flood, the Spirit of the LORD shall lift up a standard against him. ( The righteous’s whole day is spent in “fearing” [see Bible’s definitions of the words used in English to fear] God.)

Malachi 1:11 For from the rising of the sun even unto the going down of the same my name shall be great among the Gentiles; and in every place incense shall be offered unto my name, and a pure offering: for my name shall be great among the heathen, saith the LORD of hosts. (Time & prophecy reference.)

Mark 16:2 And very early in the morning the first day of the week, they came unto the sepulchre at the rising of the sun. (If the idea is true that the sun did not “rise” we have no resurrection of Jesus & no weekly cycle - for the sun setting anchors the start of each day.)

Those who play word games and insinuate error in Scripture display the attitude of being critical of the work of the Holy Ghost, Whom they are commanded not to grieve or insult because He is the One who seals them unto the day of redemption. If they decide to be verbally irreverent of His work, how then can they enter into His sealing work ? That sealing work represents a voluntary cooperation.

Is it possible to please God by insinuations that deny faith. Seeds sprout best in their native elements. Would planting doubt in anyone who reads be a work of faith or deliberate doubt ?

The longest journey begins with a single step, both faith and doubt are a journey.

To say one thing and mean another is too easy at best, but to even hint of doubt of the validity of Scripture will weaken someone's hold on eternal life through Jesus. Perhaps word pictures that are "givens" of understanding ought not be so painted as to hold the least tendency of sowing seeds of doubt in Scripture. Because it is not Scripture's hold on humanity that is weak, it is human hold upon Scripture that too often trembles.

Very well said Brother Ed.

Who are we to question what God says in His Holy Word?

If God said it, that settles it.

This topic, this forum is not about tearing down the Bible but building it up, therefore, let us focus our posts and topics in this forum in that direction.

Darius- First of all, this is Howard, Wendys husband. I would have to say that th bible is God breathed and God used man ( a flawed being) to write it. If there seems to be any discrencies in the bible, it is because man is giving a testimony from his perspective as well. Think of the four gospels, there are several "discrepencies" there but you have to realize that at each event there weren't just the four gosples witnessing it. There hundreds sometimes thousands of witnesses and these four gospels were seeing the event from many different angles even to the point of having their view obscured by these people. It doesn't make the event any less true. Secondly, You must understand that old testament people were very ignorant compared to our knowledge and God unsterstood that. So when Joshua asked that the sun stand still, God didn't say no because he didn't asked the right question. God said yes because He knew of Joshuas ignorance. This,like the sunrise and sunset really is just a part of semantics. As God does, the learned should wink at the ignorant.
Her husband the servant.

Amen, Brother Howard!

God works with man where he is at in his knowledge of things.

I am reminded though where man once believed that the world was flat, whereas the Bible said that the world was round. I can't think of how it reads, however, when I find it I will post it here.

It is good to see you posting here, even if it is under Wendy's name.