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Re: Why humanity need redemption?
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05/20/06 01:42 AM
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That is why Christian religion supersede all other religions in the world because beside it is the only religion that came from God, it also taught the core of human inability to safe themselves and God Creator of heaven and earth, God that live, God with no beginning and no end, eternal God himself that came to earth in human flesh to safe men from their fate, which through the life, death and resurrection of Jesus Christ the Son of God, men have been redeemed from the death, released from the enslavement of sin, reconciled to God and have now an option to choose the way of God unto eternal life, which beforehand there is only one way to eternal death.
Oh, I love to share this to my fellow non Christ believers and this discussions here about this topic has add a lot of information and views that is necessary to finished my book.
Thanks to all.
In His love
James S
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Re: Why humanity need redemption?
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05/20/06 02:53 AM
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What book? I liked your last statement. You're right that Christianity is a special religion. It is the only religion where God seeks after man, rather than man trying to reach God.
Those who wait for the Bridegroom's coming are to say to the people, "Behold your God." The last rays of merciful light, the last message of mercy to be given to the world, is a revelation of His character of love.
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Re: Why humanity need redemption?
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05/20/06 08:38 AM
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What book?
In fact, view years ago I was in the half way to finish writing my book that I would print and distributed freely to my fellow Adventist with the intention to inform them that SDA church is the church of Babel and 7th day Sabbath observation is the mark of the beast. I was almost sure that my theology against the SDA’s belief is correct.
Not only to distribute my book to my fellow Adventist but also I would distribute it freely to people from other Christian denomination, in order they may know SDA’s false doctrines and would not be entrapped in their teachings.
But Mike Lowe has awakened me after nearly one and a half year discussion in this forum, and I realized my mistake, which ruined my whole theology against the SDA’s doctrines as the fall of the Empire State building when hit by the terrorist planes.
From then on, I lost the intention to study more of the Scripture, because I must admit that my entire search to prove that SDA’s doctrines are against the Scripture failed. Thus, I stopped writing my book and wait for the right moment to continue it but of course it must be edited all the way to present the Scripture theology as according to SDA’s doctrine at it best and then distributed freely to my fellow brothers and sisters that are not SDA’s, to my fellow Christians from other denominations and also to my fellow SDA’s who are trapped in legalism.
I want to present my book in simple words, simple theology but accurate from the beginning, just as Darius said, if we don’t understand creation, it is difficult for us to grasp why we need redemption. Therefore, this discussion in this thread has added a lot to my understanding that I may continue writing my book and finished it. I hope I understand the way other Christians denomination thinks about us and through my book I may brought to them what they don’t know and understand about us.
In His love
James S.
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Re: Why humanity need redemption?
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06/16/06 03:18 PM
06/16/06 03:18 PM
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But Mike Lowe has awakened me after nearly one and a half year discussion in this forum, and I realized my mistake, which ruined my whole theology against the SDA’s doctrines
Hi, James. I remember you from VOAF, when you were still confused. I'm very happy to know that this forum was a blessing to you.
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Re: Why humanity need redemption?
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06/19/06 10:19 AM
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Hi Rosa.
Yes, we have quite a very "hot" discussion that time.
But, instead of getting off from SDA, I found that it is indeed the true church of God. Thanks to this forum, therefore, I came back to discuss again things that I am not so sure is SDA's view in order I would not teach and preach something wrong to my family, neighbors and friends.
In His love
James S
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Re: Why humanity need redemption?
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06/22/06 10:08 PM
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Tom, by definition religion is man's efforts to reach God. All religions do it though it is more obvious in some than in others.
Darius A. Lecointe, J.D., Ph.D. No weapon formed against me shall prosper.
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Re: Why humanity need redemption?
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06/23/06 01:34 AM
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Ah, more refugees from VOAF. May it RIP.
Redfog
If at first you don't succeed.....destroy all evidence you ever tried.
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Re: Why humanity need redemption?
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06/23/06 10:30 PM
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Galatians 2 21 I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain.
It is so hazardous to take here a little and there a little. If you put the right little's together you can make the bible teach anything you wish. //Graham Maxwell
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Re: Why humanity need redemption?
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06/24/06 09:42 AM
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Quote. Redemption has to do with slavery. We are redeemed from slavery.
What is it that causes slavery? Jesus tells us in John 8:33 or so that whoever commits sin is the slave of sin. It is sin which enslaves us.
So the reason humanity needs to be redeemed is because it has been enslaved by the power of sin. Unquote.
Thus, the reason Christ died for us is to release us from the enslavement of sin?
I think, the reason Christ died for us is to give back our life which had been robbed by Adam.
This is his main reason as the 2nd Adam, and life after death we have.
But we would all die again if God just sit down watching us, for none of us could released himself from the enslavement of sin, thus, God sent his Holy Spirit to assist those who believe to overcome. Now, there are many who would live everlasting and many who would die again in spite the got their life back.
In His love
James S.
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Re: Why humanity need redemption?
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06/24/06 06:30 PM
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The slavery from which we were redeemed occurred in the Garden of Eden when Lucifer claimed us. It is unfortunate that we continue to support Lucifer's claims by refusing to accept the fact that we have been redeemed.
Darius A. Lecointe, J.D., Ph.D. No weapon formed against me shall prosper.
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