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Modern Christ
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05/21/06 04:38 AM
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Modern Christ.
How should we live a Christ like life in this modern era where it is so very different with Christ life time on earth? What is the key to success to have a happy propitious life on earth and to have eternal life in the New World?
In His love
James S
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Re: Modern Christ
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05/21/06 11:22 PM
05/21/06 11:22 PM
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The time may be different in the sense of modern conveniences but the principles are still the same.
Then again, what we consider modern in our time, they also considered modern in their time.
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Re: Modern Christ
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05/22/06 01:30 AM
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I agree with Daryl's comment. What makes for a Christ-like life is to reflect His character. What was Jesus like? He was gentle, curteous, self-sacrificing, gracious, merciful, unselfish, to name just a few attributes of His character. One can manifest these attributes of character regardless of the time period in which one lives.
Those who wait for the Bridegroom's coming are to say to the people, "Behold your God." The last rays of merciful light, the last message of mercy to be given to the world, is a revelation of His character of love.
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Re: Modern Christ
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05/22/06 04:11 AM
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We know that now in modern time, Satan has expanded his method of temptation that is greater than in Jesus time. Now, Satan can use any device and any method that he could not use at the time of Christ to temp people.
In this modern era where there are almost no limits between countries, Satan can use many techniques to temp people and lead them away from Christ.
So, if Christ is in our place now, what would be his techniques, methods and principle to face the reality of a corrupt modern world?
In His love
James S
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Re: Modern Christ
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05/22/06 01:15 PM
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What is the key to success to have a happy propitious life on earth and to have eternal life in the New World?
The life that Christ brought to us is ‘eternal life’. It was not a life suited just for a time but forever; for all ages, occasions, and situations. The key to success is “Christ in you”. Perhaps we need to examine what that means.
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Satan has expanded his method of temptation that is greater than in Jesus time. Now, Satan can use any device and any method that he could not use at the time of Christ to temp people.
While temptation may come in different packages or be plenteous, that does not change the way the temptation is accepted (given-into) or overcome.
Creeping compromise in personal life is surest way to separate one from Christ while still mentally thinking that one is a believer. If you are talking about a modern device of temptation, here is one very accepted and prevalent one. Placing oneself in constant exposure of evil and lustful thought, thinking I can control it, such as TV, dullens senses, and makes one look at themselves as better than the world. So the reference point is changed from Christ to the world.
By beholding we become changed.
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Re: Modern Christ
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05/23/06 03:48 AM
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While temptation may come in different packages or be plenteous, that does not change the way the temptation is accepted (given-into) or overcome.
Creeping compromise in personal life is surest way to separate one from Christ while still mentally thinking that one is a believer. If you are talking about a modern device of temptation, here is one very accepted and prevalent one. Placing oneself in constant exposure of evil and lustful thought, thinking I can control it, such as TV, dullens senses, and makes one look at themselves as better than the world. So the reference point is changed from Christ to the world.
By beholding we become changed.
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Yes, you are very right, I like your view.
But that is theoretically, practically it is a difficult time for Christians nowadays at the end of time.
As the Scripture said, that at the end of time many Christians would be swept away by false gods and false doctrines. Money, power, and fame are the false gods that attract many good Christians, and “justification by faith + work” is the false doctrines that eventually have crept into our own churches (Matthew 24:24).
And “TV” has becomes one of the greatest temptation for Christians nowadays. Entertainment world has given their viewers many packages that are so exciting and make people endure to sit in front of it for hours (including me, I must admit).
Internet is also one of Satan’s means to attract people of God, through this media we might find so easily any kinds of entertainment for the eyes including nkd women, and I am sure that many are surfing in these kinds of web sites.
In all stores now we might find magazines, tabloids and other publications that are packed with “soft core”, one effective weapon of Satan for the younger generation.
All these “things” are Satan’s weapon to attract people of God, if possible, the chosen one. These “thing” are not present in Christ day, so, may I say that Christ hadn’t been tempted the way Christians now is tempted? Sure we know the outcome, but at least, we faced a harder temptation and difficult time than him, right? Meanwhile, His mission is different than us, and his goal is not the same as us.
So, I might understand why He said: “Many are called, but less is chosen.” In His love
James S
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Re: Modern Christ
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05/26/06 06:50 AM
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What is the principle of doing business in Christ way?
Basically, as a business man, I want to make provit as much as posible when it is posible, but some times it is hard to speak the truth whenever my client said that I quote to high and seek for to much profit. Some time I countered I only have small margin or just comission, which is not true.
Tere are many things in doing business that needs us to speak and act falsely in order to cover our main purpose or target, bribing, etc I think this is usual in business world but not for modern Christ to do business.
So, any sugestions how we could deal business in the way of a modern Christ when faced with the high competition and many competitor and the need to get the order.
In His love
James S
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Re: Modern Christ
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05/27/06 01:32 AM
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Businessmen and women are sociable people usually. So it is good to be hospitable, to socialize and eat with them. That's healthy. And it is good and healthy to exchange tokens of friendship and appreciation. Bribery though is different - it compromises the relationship over the long term because the transactions are not based on fair exchange of values and properties. I'm not in business at the moment, but in my line of work and outside of it, I've seen that people come to understand where you draw the line and even those that may incorrectly think you're a rigid moralist will respect your position if your product or services are consistenly high quality at a fair, competitive price.
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Re: Modern Christ
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05/27/06 01:55 AM
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Take the matter of doing your taxes based on your business or self-employment.
How many are really honest in the reporting of all their income and expenses?
What did Christ do in response to the tax question back then, and how would He respond now?
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Re: Modern Christ
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05/27/06 08:26 PM
05/27/06 08:26 PM
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One must remember that Christ was temped as we are. So is there a difference? I would have to say no.
Satan just has different things to use now and get at us in different ways. But it is still the same old temptations.
How did our Lord Jesus Christ overcome? He overcame by a total dependence upon the Father for everything. And it is through our believing that Jesus is the Son of God that we can overcome the world.
We must realize that it is very possible to overcome the world as Christ did. It just, is not in our power that it can be accomplished but by the Power of the Almighty Father, through His Son that it can be done.
Get ride of that TV it makes a huge difference.
Peace and Grace David
The greatest want of the world is the want of men-- men who will not be bought or sold, men who in their inmost souls are true and honest, men who do not fear to call sin by its right name, men whose conscience is as true to duty as the needle to the pole, men who will stand for the right though the heavens fall.
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