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Re: Lesson Study #10 - LIFE Through the HOLY SPIRIT
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06/03/06 01:44 AM
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Here also is an important quote from Sunday's study: Quote:
As we've already seen, the Holy Spirit guides us into truth; that means, of course, He guides us to Jesus, for as He Himself said, "I am . . . the truth" (John 14:6). Yet, the truth about Jesus isn't just that He is God, which He is, or that He entered into humanity, which He did, or that He lived sinlessly, which is true; instead, the crucial truth about Jesus is that He died as a sacrifice for the sins of the world. No matter how important everything else about Jesus is, in the end, they all culminate in His substitutionary death in behalf of humanity. Any theology that ignores or weakens this point is deviating from the work of the Holy Spirit, who is to guide us into "all truth" (John 16:13), and Christ on the cross as our Substitute is the center of all truth (1 Cor. 2:2).
We need to hang onto this aspect of truth and not get so hung up on His human nature.
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Re: Lesson Study #10 - LIFE Through the HOLY SPIRIT
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06/03/06 02:42 AM
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I am interesting to know the connection between this quote:
As Christians, the foundation of our hope, our acceptance with God, stems not from anything we can do, not from any works of righteousness we can produce, not even from any fruit of the Spirit but only from the righteousness of Jesus credited to us by faith. This is our surety, our guarantee, the only sure foundation upon which we can have any assurance. Through the merits of Christ's perfect life, granted to us through nothing but God's grace—which is His unmerited favor toward us as wayward sinners—there is no condemnation for us (Rom. 8:1), either now or in the judgment.
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2 Peter 3:11
Since everything will be destroyed in this way, what kind of people ought you to be? You ought to holy and godly lives.
Seems to me, if at the end it is Christ righteousness credited to us (Christ imparted righteousness?) that counts, why then all those hard efforts to live holy and godly?
In His love
James S
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Re: Lesson Study #10 - LIFE Through the HOLY SPIRIT
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06/03/06 04:59 PM
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I am interesting to know the connection between this quote:
As Christians, the foundation of our hope, our acceptance with God, stems not from anything we can do, not from any works of righteousness we can produce, not even from any fruit of the Spirit but only from the righteousness of Jesus credited to us by faith.
And
2 Peter 3:11
You ought to holy and godly lives.
Seems to me, if at the end it is Christ righteousness credited to us (Christ imparted righteousness?) that counts, why then all those hard efforts to live holy and godly?
In His love
James S
Just wait for next Quarter's fiasco with the sanctuary truth....which totally fails to answer this question, too. I use the German translation which reached me a few days ago, already.
Christ's righteousness "credited" to us is imputed righteousness, and it is critically experiential righteousness, so not merely "credited" to us in forgiveness. It is the foundation of our hope, our qualification for heaven, but it is not the holy and godly lives: that's imparted righteousness.
The investigative judgement isn't about keeping score of our misdeeds since it's extra lessons in righteous living so that the holy and godly deeds increase until God is satisfied that no more lessons are needed and he seals his people with his name: perfect victory over our nature by the power of Christ through his Spirit.
The judgement, let me emphasise this, is not about checking who the believers all are, but it finishes the character building of God's people and doesn't end until that task is finished. As long as this isn't understood by the SS lesson author and evaluation committees, confusion shall continue to be printed.
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Re: Lesson Study #10 - LIFE Through the HOLY SPIRIT
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06/03/06 05:11 PM
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I am interesting to know the connection between this quote:
As Christians, the foundation of our hope, our acceptance with God, stems not from anything we can do, not from any works of righteousness we can produce, not even from any fruit of the Spirit but only from the righteousness of Jesus credited to us by faith.
And
2 Peter 3:11
You ought to holy and godly lives.
Seems to me, if at the end it is Christ righteousness credited to us (Christ imparted righteousness?) that counts, why then all those hard efforts to live holy and godly?
In His love
James S
Next quarter's lesson won't help either, since our leading writers at present are less willing than you to find the answer.
Righteousness "Credited" to us is imputed while the sanctified, holy, godly lives we lead use imparted righteousness. The first regenerates us spiritually, experientially, not just a record of forgiveness. The latter is the actions flowing from that regeneration.
The lesson study evaluation committee must bare its part in confusing the situation: sanctification is only the experience and exercise of justification by faith, and fits us for heaven since we are qualified by justification. Godly lives lead to completed sanctification, since Jesus able to complete it in us, and that is practically indispensible.
The connection is that the lesson is a little confused!
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Re: Lesson Study #10 - LIFE Through the HOLY SPIRIT
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Yes Collin, it is confusing.
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As Christians, the foundation of our hope, our acceptance with God, stems not from anything we can do, not from any works of righteousness we can produce, not even from any fruit of the Spirit but only from the righteousness of Jesus credited to us by faith. This is our surety, our guarantee, the only sure foundation upon which we can have any assurance. Through the merits of Christ's perfect life, granted to us through nothing but God's grace—which is His unmerited favor toward us as wayward sinners—there is no condemnation for us (Rom. 8:1), either now or in the judgment.
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Would this be an excuse for us if we didn't strive hard enough to remain holy and godly
In His love
James S
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