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Re: Lesson Study #12 - The Sin Against The HOLY SPIRIT #75106
06/14/06 01:19 AM
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I can't figure out where I can start new posts so I will ask this question where it was prompted. I wonder how many here would put Christ on iggy if He should tell them stuff they don't like or in a manner of which they don't approve? As Thomas would say, this has been done throughout history.

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Re: Lesson Study #12 - The Sin Against The HOLY SPIRIT #75107
06/14/06 01:47 AM
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What do you mean by Christ of iggy?


In His Love, Mercy & Grace,

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John 8:32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.

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Re: Lesson Study #12 - The Sin Against The HOLY SPIRIT #75108
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Ooops! I edited the post.


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Re: Lesson Study #12 - The Sin Against The HOLY SPIRIT #75109
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Then, what do you mean by Christ on iggy?


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Re: Lesson Study #12 - The Sin Against The HOLY SPIRIT #75110
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Well, it seems folk around here put other folk on iggy. I ws just wondering about this "in as much . . . " thing.


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Re: Lesson Study #12 - The Sin Against The HOLY SPIRIT #75111
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Daryl, I found this on line as a definition for "iggy":

slang term meaning "Ignore". Often used in chatrooms.

"I have all the bots on iggy."


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Re: Lesson Study #12 - The Sin Against The HOLY SPIRIT #75112
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This is a question that might merit its own thread.


Galatians 2
21 I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain.

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Re: Lesson Study #12 - The Sin Against The HOLY SPIRIT #75113
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Getting back to the topic, Tuesday's study says the following:

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But there is one sin that is unpardonable and inevitably results in eternal death. When someone refuses to respond to the goodness of God, which is designed to lead unto repentance (Rom. 2:4), this continued refusal to accept God's overtures of grace will finally result in the commission of the unpardonable sin.




I would gather from the above quote that the writer feels that continued and persistent rejection of the Holy Spirit in this regard constitutes the unpardonable sin.

Tuesday's study goes on to say:

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The unpardonable sin, or the sin against the Holy Spirit, is persistent rejection of light, the persistent rejection of what Christ has done for us. This rejection inevitably blinds the spiritual eyes and hardens the rejecter's heart to the wooings of the Spirit, as the example of those leaders in Israel. Finally, there is utter darkness in the soul, and the person is eternally lost because he or she has ruined his or her soul's perceptivity to the promptings of the Spirit.

Placing one's self beyond the power of the Holy Spirit is "unpardonable" because we cannot even repent without the aid of the Spirit of God. God can't do anything for us unless He forces us, which He won't do. We have, through our own choices, cut ourselves off from salvation.




This makes sense to me as there doesn't seem to be any other way of committing the unpardonable sin.

I would then go on to say that the result of this rejection of the Holy Spirit is attributing to the devil the work or actions of the Holy Spirit which would in a sense validate the rejection or ignoring the work of the Holy Spirit.


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Re: Lesson Study #12 - The Sin Against The HOLY SPIRIT #75114
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From Wednesday's study we find the following EGW quote:

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"We must have a knowledge of ourselves, a knowledge that will result in contrition, before we can find pardon and peace. The Pharisee felt no conviction of sin. The Holy Spirit could not work with him. His soul was encased in a self-righteous armor which the arrows of God, barbed and true-aimed by angel hands, failed to penetrate. It is only he who knows himself to be a sinner that Christ can save." —Ellen G. White, Christ's Object Lessons, p. 158.



This strengthens the fact that rejection of the Holy Spirit is the unpardonable sin.


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Re: Lesson Study #12 - The Sin Against The HOLY SPIRIT #75115
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Quote:
This strengthens the fact that rejection of the Holy Spirit is the unpardonable sin
Unquote.

The question is: When this terminology comes in effect? At the day when I die? 1 year before I die?

In other word: How could I know that I have an unpardonable sin?

And if I have this unpardonable sin, does Satan know? Would I live long or would it be short ever since the day this sin is established?

In His love

James S

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