Forums118
Topics9,199
Posts195,615
Members1,323
|
Most Online5,850 Feb 29th, 2020
|
|
S |
M |
T |
W |
T |
F |
S |
|
|
|
1
|
2
|
3
|
4
|
5
|
6
|
7
|
8
|
9
|
10
|
11
|
12
|
13
|
14
|
15
|
16
|
17
|
18
|
19
|
20
|
21
|
22
|
23
|
24
|
25
|
26
|
27
|
28
|
29
|
30
|
31
|
|
|
Here is a link to show exactly where the Space Station is over earth right now: Click Here
|
|
|
Here is the link to this week's Sabbath School Lesson Study and Discussion Material: Click Here
|
|
Re: Lesson Study #7 - 70 Weeks
#77961
08/06/06 06:56 PM
08/06/06 06:56 PM
|
|
Here is the key text, or memoory verse, of this week's study:
"Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy" (Daniel 9:24).
This week we continue with Daniel 9, focusing on the amazing 70-week prophecy, which provides powerful evidence not only for the inspiration of Scripture but for the messiahship of Jesus, "the Messiah the Prince" (Dan. 9:25), who—as the center of the prophecy, forms the foundation for the 2,300-day prophecy, as well.
I don't know how the once chosen people of God managed to get around this fulfilled prophecy. I also don't understand how they get around it today.
|
Reply
Quote
|
|
|
Re: Lesson Study #7 - 70 Weeks
#77963
08/07/06 02:00 PM
08/07/06 02:00 PM
|
|
In anwser to my own question, Sunday's study says that the appropriate word is cut off:Quote:
Though various translations are used for the verb (root is chatchak), such as "determined," or "decreed," the basic meaning is that of "cut off," which is how most Hebrew lexicons define it (unfortunately, the word doesn't appear anywhere else in the Bible, so we can't see how it is used elsewhere in Scripture). In Ugaritic, a language similar to Hebrew, scholars have noted that the parallel word in that language for chatchak means "cut off," as well. Thus, the basic rendering of the text is "70 weeks are cut off."
With the above quote in mind, what does cut off mean?
Quote:
Cut off from what? What else other than from another time prophecy? What other time prophecy? Obviously, the mareh, the 2,300 days of Daniel 8:14, the longer of the two prophecies.
Sunday's study says it is cut off from the longer 2300 days/years time prophecy.
Quote:
Thus, we are given two time prophecies: 2,300 days and 70 weeks, and the 70 weeks is to be "cut off" from the 2,300 days.
|
Reply
Quote
|
|
|
Re: Lesson Study #7 - 70 Weeks
#77964
08/07/06 02:09 PM
08/07/06 02:09 PM
|
|
Monday's study, today's study, focuses on Daniel 9:25 quoted below:
Quote:
Dan 9:25 Know therefore and understand, that from the going out of the command to restore and to build Jerusalem, to Messiah the Prince, shall be seven weeks, and sixty-two weeks. The street shall be built again, and the wall, even in times of affliction.
The question asked is what two events are found here in the above verse?
The answer:
Quote:
Here, in this one verse, 69 of the 70 weeks are accounted for. The prophecy begins with the command to restore and rebuild Jerusalem, and 69 weeks later it ends with "the Messiah the Prince."
To whom then, is the end of this prophecy referring to?
|
Reply
Quote
|
|
|
Re: Lesson Study #7 - 70 Weeks
#77967
08/08/06 04:26 PM
08/08/06 04:26 PM
|
|
Tuesday's study contains the following information:
"......some of the common dates used for the decree in Daniel 9:25.
Take, for example, 538 B.C. Applying the day-year principle to the 69 weeks (483 years) would bring "the Messiah the Prince," Jesus, to 55 B.C., an impossible date for Jesus.
The same with another common date, 520 B.C. That starting date would bring Jesus to about 37 B.C., an impossible conclusion.
Finally, the only other common date is 444 B.C., which, if used, would place the beginning of Jesus' ministry about A.D. 39 or 40 and His death sometime in the early A.D. 40s. And though that's much closer than the other two options, New Testament scholars know that those dates don't work for Jesus."
What happened on these dates that they have even been considered as possible starting dates of this prophecy?
|
Reply
Quote
|
|
|
Re: Lesson Study #7 - 70 Weeks
#77969
08/09/06 05:48 PM
08/09/06 05:48 PM
|
|
I looked at both today's study (Wednesday) and tomorrow's study (Thursday). Thursday's study is titled 457 B.C. I found an interesting comment in Thursday's study pertaining to Wednesday's study: Quote:
The book of Ezra is not in chronological order, so the events in Ezra 4 came later than what was in chapter 7. And though nothing in this decree specifically talks about rebuilding the city, it was obviously understood to entail that, because, according to what we read yesterday, that's exactly what the Jews were doing. Both they and their enemies understood that the decree, issued by Artaxerxes in his seventh year, by which the Jews "which came up from thee to us" (Ezra 4:12), must have included the command "to restore and to build Jerusalem." This is even more obvious because nothing in their letter expressed any idea that rebuilding of the city by the Jews was somehow in contradiction with the decree of the king.
I am using an It Is Written Heritage Edition KJV Bible. It shows at the beginning of each chapter the date the events of the chapter took place. In Ezra 4 it shows 536 B.C. and in Ezra 7 it shows 457 B.C. The It Is Written Bible Heritage Edition people, in doing this, claims that Ezra 4 and 7 are in chronological order.
Who am I to believe? The writer of the quarterly, or the ones who put the IIW Heritage Edition Bible together?
If it is in chronological order, then how to we explain Ezra 4 in comparison to Ezra 7?
|
Reply
Quote
|
|
|
|
|