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Lesson Study #8 - Faith and Frailty #81266
11/18/06 12:50 AM
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The next study, which I am placing here this evening, is about Faith and Frailty.

You can access the Lesson Study at the following link:

http://www.ssnet.org/qrtrly/eng/06d/less08.html

This may answer some questions raised in the Lesson #7 Study.


In His Love, Mercy & Grace,

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John 8:32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.

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Re: Lesson Study #8 - Faith and Frailty [Re: Daryl] #81347
11/19/06 11:59 PM
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Abram does well in some things, not so well, in other things, and not so good in the test of faith in the case of Sunday's study regarding Hagar and Ishmael.


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Re: Lesson Study #8 - Faith and Frailty [Re: Daryl] #81348
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Abram is like a yo-yo, going up and down, and Sarai didn't help things any. But then, her faith wasn't so good either.

Why is it that they felt God couldn't do what He said He would do?

Why are we the same way, or are we the same way?


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Re: Lesson Study #8 - Faith and Frailty [Re: Daryl] #81350
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This really shows how frail Sarai's faith is, and how frail Abram's faith is at times.


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Re: Lesson Study #8 - Faith and Frailty [Re: Daryl] #81353
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And even thirteen years after the birth of Ishmael, as it says in Monday's study, God appeared to Abram and repeated in expanded form the covenant He had first made with the patriarch.

Why did God continue to do this with Abram?

Why didn't God pass it on to another?


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Re: Lesson Study #8 - Faith and Frailty [Re: Daryl] #81361
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Originally Posted By: Daryl Fawcett
And even thirteen years after the birth of Ishmael, as it says in Monday's study, God appeared to Abram and repeated in expanded form the covenant He had first made with the patriarch.

Why did God continue to do this with Abram?

Why didn't God pass it on to another?
I think we all have reason to be thanking God for being true to His word and not abandoning us at the first best opportunity. God and Abram where in a covenant and God isnt the one to break those.


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21 I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain.

It is so hazardous to take here a little and there a little. If you put the right little's together you can make the bible teach anything you wish. //Graham Maxwell
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Re: Lesson Study #8 - Faith and Frailty [Re: Daryl] #81438
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Originally Posted By: Daryl Fawcett
Abram is like a yo-yo, going up and down, and Sarai didn't help things any. But then, her faith wasn't so good either.

Why is it that they felt God couldn't do what He said He would do?

Why are we the same way, or are we the same way?


The problem was that they wanted to do God's will in their own strength. And yes, we often fall into the same temptation today. The problem, then and now, is a lack of faith. We do not quite believe that God's way is the best way, and so we try to think of alternatives.


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Arnold

There is no excuse for any one in taking the position that there is no more truth to be revealed, and that all our expositions of Scripture are without an error. The fact that certain doctrines have been held as truth for many years by our people, is not a proof that our ideas are infallible. Age will not make error into truth, and truth can afford to be fair. No true doctrine will lose anything by close investigation. RH 12/20/1892
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Re: Lesson Study #8 - Faith and Frailty [Re: asygo] #81552
11/24/06 06:47 PM
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That's why we tend to call on God for help only after all our own attempts have failed.

Tuesday's study brings out another interesting thought.

The title of Tuesday's study is The Lord on Earth.

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......we have here, many centuries before the incarnation of Jesus, the appearance of the Lord, on earth, in what is clearly a human form (see Gen. 18:1-8). We see, therefore, even way back here the incredibly close connection God, the Creator God, has with us, His fallen earthly creation.


And then is this quote, also from Tuesday's study:

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.......we are given here another example of the amazing love that God has for us, that He would manifest Himself here in human form and talk to Abraham, a sinful human being. This is, of course, only a precursor of what would happen centuries later in the life and ministry of Jesus, who not only became human but died for the sins of this fallen world. The point? God is closer to humanity than most of us even begin to realize.


From Adam to Abraham, we have examples of the LORD appearing in human form. The LORD also appeared to Moses, but in a somewhat different way. In one instance Moses was only permitted to see the back parts of the LORD. It seems that soon after Moses, the LORD spoke only through His prophets. Why did the LORD cease to appear in human form and, instead, speak through His prophets?


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Re: Lesson Study #8 - Faith and Frailty [Re: Daryl] #81553
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In the case of the LORD appearing in human form to Abraham, we see Abraham as a type of Christ making intercession for the people of Sodom & Gomorrah.

Even though the LORD wouldn't destroy Sodom & Gomorrah, if there were ten righteous people there, a number that Abraham stopped at, the LORD wouldn't have allowed any of the righteous to perish in the destruction of Sodom & Gomorrah.

This leads us into Wednesday's study On the Eve of Doom.

There we see the two angels warning Lot and his family of the doom of Sodom & Gomorrah.

We see a contrast between Abraham and Lot, however, even Lot, who was influenced by the evil of Sodom, was referred to as a righteous man.

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Though according to 2 Peter 2:7, 8 Lot was a righteous man who was pained by what he saw happening in the city, he probably couldn't have avoided being influenced by his surroundings. Who wouldn't? (John the Baptist had to live in the wilderness to escape the corruptions around him.) Perhaps that helps explain Lot's willingness to give his virgin daughters to the mob in order to protect his guests (Gen. 19:8). However difficult it is for us to understand Lot's response, it does show us how seriously he took the mob's intent. He obviously knew what these people were capable of. As verses 9-14 show, it took the supernatural intervention of the two angels to save Lot from the mob, who had become angry at him, as well.


Is Lot an example of those who will be saved in the sense of a brand being plucked from the fire as in Zech. 3:2?

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Zechariah 3:2
And the LORD said unto Satan, The LORD rebuke thee, O Satan; even the LORD that hath chosen Jerusalem rebuke thee: is not this a brand plucked out of the fire?


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Re: Lesson Study #8 - Faith and Frailty [Re: Daryl] #81555
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After being warned by the two angels, Lot unsuccessfully warns his extended family.

From Thursday's study comes the following quote:

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Had Lot's inconsistent witness dulled the effect of his appeals? Not even the desperate visit at night could arouse his family. Lot's children "laughed at what they called his superstitious fears. His daughters were influenced by their husbands. They were well enough off where they were. They could see no evidence of danger. Everything was just as it had been. They had great possessions, and they could not believe it possible that beautiful Sodom would be destroyed."—Ellen G. White, Patriarchs and Prophets, p. 160.


The quote began with an interesting question: "Had Lot's inconsistent witness dulled the effect of his appeals?"

What do you suppose was mean't by "inconsistent witness" in that quote?


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