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Re: Lesson Study #11 - Jacob Becomes Israel
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12/15/06 12:24 AM
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"Connected" seems to be rather a nebulous concept. What does it mean? Does Jesus prevail on my behalf?
How long do I need to prevail by being in Christ? When does the time arrive when I can say, Thanks! Now I can manage from here on? These are good questions! It might be helpful to define these phrases as well.
Those who wait for the Bridegroom's coming are to say to the people, "Behold your God." The last rays of merciful light, the last message of mercy to be given to the world, is a revelation of His character of love.
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Re: Lesson Study #11 - Jacob Becomes Israel
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how is it that he finally prevailed? ; "he wept, and made supplication" (Hosea 12:4), pleading for a blessing. He must have the assurance that his sin was pardoned. Physical pain was not sufficient to divert his mind from this object. His determination grew stronger, his faith more earnest and persevering, until the very last. The Angel tried to release Himself; He urged, "Let Me go, for the day breaketh;" but Jacob answered, "I will not let Thee go, except Thou bless me." Had this been a boastful, presumptuous confidence, Jacob would have been instantly destroyed; but his was the assurance of one who confesses his own unworthiness, yet trusts the faithfulness of a covenant-keeping God. {PP 196.3} Helpless and unworthy, he pleaded God's promise of mercy to the repentant sinner. That promise was his assurance that God would pardon and accept him. Sooner might heaven and earth pass than that word could fail; and it was this that sustained him through that fearful conflict. {PP 198.5}
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Arnold
There is no excuse for any one in taking the position that there is no more truth to be revealed, and that all our expositions of Scripture are without an error. The fact that certain doctrines have been held as truth for many years by our people, is not a proof that our ideas are infallible. Age will not make error into truth, and truth can afford to be fair. No true doctrine will lose anything by close investigation. RH 12/20/1892
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Re: Lesson Study #11 - Jacob Becomes Israel
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how is it that he finally prevailed? - - - Had this been a boastful, presumptuous confidence, Jacob would have been instantly destroyed; but his was the assurance of one who confesses his own unworthiness, yet trusts the faithfulness of a covenant-keeping God. {PP 196.3} - - - Who is faithful? Are we tied through a covenant to God?
"Here is a last piece of advice. If you believe in goodness and if you value the approval of God, fix your minds on the things which are holy and right and pure and beautiful and good. Model your conduct on what you have learned from me, on what I have told you and shown you, and you will find the God of peace will be with you."
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Re: Lesson Study #11 - Jacob Becomes Israel
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how is it that he finally prevailed? - - - Had this been a boastful, presumptuous confidence, Jacob would have been instantly destroyed; but his was the assurance of one who confesses his own unworthiness, yet trusts the faithfulness of a covenant-keeping God. {PP 196.3} - - - Who is faithful? Are we tied through a covenant to God? Does this covenant have anything to do with it if we will prevail or not? How? In my Bible there are 20 references to a covenant in the New Testament. Even our sins are removed through a covenant. Rom. 11.
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"Here is a last piece of advice. If you believe in goodness and if you value the approval of God, fix your minds on the things which are holy and right and pure and beautiful and good. Model your conduct on what you have learned from me, on what I have told you and shown you, and you will find the God of peace will be with you."
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Re: Lesson Study #11 - Jacob Becomes Israel
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Who is faithful?
Are we tied through a covenant to God? PP 196.3 says that God is faithful. Revelation 14:12 says that we are to have that same faith, the faith that manifests itself in faithfulness. So, both God and His people have the characteristic of faithfulness. The covenant between God and His people depends upon faithfulness. When both parties are faithful, then the covenant stands. When one side or the other is unfaithful, then the covenant is broken. Of course, God is always faithful. But, alas, we are not. Read 1Kings 11:11 for an example of unfaithfulness and its results.
By God's grace,
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There is no excuse for any one in taking the position that there is no more truth to be revealed, and that all our expositions of Scripture are without an error. The fact that certain doctrines have been held as truth for many years by our people, is not a proof that our ideas are infallible. Age will not make error into truth, and truth can afford to be fair. No true doctrine will lose anything by close investigation. RH 12/20/1892
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Re: Lesson Study #11 - Jacob Becomes Israel
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How long does this covenant last? In general, as long as all parties fulfill the covenant's requirements. But it depends on what specific covenant you're talking about. Has God ever broken this covenant? Will he ever? No and No. It affects us positively if we fulfill the covenant's requirements. That means God will always do what He promises to do. And that's what faith is: claiming God's promises because we are in a covenant relationship with Him. But if we do not fulfill the requirements, then we have no claim to the covenant's blessings. To claim God's promises under this condition would be presumption, not faith. Have we broken the covenant? Again, it depends on what specific covenant you're talking about. But man has broken many covenants, starting with Adam.
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There is no excuse for any one in taking the position that there is no more truth to be revealed, and that all our expositions of Scripture are without an error. The fact that certain doctrines have been held as truth for many years by our people, is not a proof that our ideas are infallible. Age will not make error into truth, and truth can afford to be fair. No true doctrine will lose anything by close investigation. RH 12/20/1892
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Re: Lesson Study #11 - Jacob Becomes Israel
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Have we broken the covenant? Again, it depends on what specific covenant you're talking about. But man has broken many covenants, starting with Adam. How many covenants bring us eternal life?
"Here is a last piece of advice. If you believe in goodness and if you value the approval of God, fix your minds on the things which are holy and right and pure and beautiful and good. Model your conduct on what you have learned from me, on what I have told you and shown you, and you will find the God of peace will be with you."
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