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Re: What if Jesus had failed?
[Re: Tom]
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04/01/07 03:22 PM
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The response of the saved is in relation to the success of Jesus on the cross - not to the hypothetical "risk". In the context of the quote, it's neither of these that the redeemed respond to: Never can the cost of our redemption be realized until the redeemed shall stand with the Redeemer before the throne of God. Then as the glories of the eternal home burst upon our enraptured senses we shall remember that Jesus left all this for us, that He not only became an exile from the heavenly courts, but for us took the risk of failure and eternal loss. Then we shall cast our crowns at His feet, and raise the song, "Worthy is the Lamb that was slain to receive power, and riches, and wisdom, and strength, and honor, and glory, and blessing." Rev. 5:12. The redeemed respond to this: we shall remember that Jesus left all this for us, that He not only became an exile from the heavenly courts, but for us took the risk of failure and eternal loss. It is not "hypothetical" risk that the redeemed respond to, but the actual risk Christ undertook. Really, how could she have articulated the idea any more clearly? I disagree. They respond to the fact Jesus "was slain". Here is what is said: "Then we shall cast our crowns at His feet, and raise the song, "Worthy is the Lamb that was slain to receive power, and riches, and wisdom, and strength, and honor, and glory, and blessing." Rev. 5:12.
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Re: What if Jesus had failed?
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I disagree. They respond to the fact Jesus "was slain". Here is what is said:
"Then we shall cast our crowns at His feet, and raise the song, "Worthy is the Lamb that was slain to receive power, and riches, and wisdom, and strength, and honor, and glory, and blessing." Rev. 5:12. How could you disagree? What I wrote is straight from the quote! Here's the quote: Never can the cost of our redemption be realized until the redeemed shall stand with the Redeemer before the throne of God. Then as the glories of the eternal home burst upon our enraptured senses we shall remember that Jesus left all this for us, that He not only became an exile from the heavenly courts, but for us took the risk of failure and eternal loss. Then ... (DA 131) The part *before* the "then" determines what causes the redeemed to respond the way they do!
Those who wait for the Bridegroom's coming are to say to the people, "Behold your God." The last rays of merciful light, the last message of mercy to be given to the world, is a revelation of His character of love.
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Re: What if Jesus had failed?
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04/01/07 04:24 PM
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Again, Jesus did not fail on the cross. God knew Jesus would succeed. No matter what people post to prove God did not know Jesus would succeed on the cross it is simply not true. A person is free to believe what one wishes. When Ellen White writes that Christ sent His Son at the risk of failure and eternal loss, you're free to assert that's not true, that God knew Christ would succeed, and took no risk.
Those who wait for the Bridegroom's coming are to say to the people, "Behold your God." The last rays of merciful light, the last message of mercy to be given to the world, is a revelation of His character of love.
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