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Re: Questions on Mary Magdalene
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05/02/02 03:54 AM
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quote: Originally posted by Daryl Fawcett: I thought I read somewhere in the SOP writings that they are all the same person.
Daryl I think this is what I thought to but when I read the following quote from the Spirit of Prophecy I am not sure: quote: He who gave back to the (1)widow her only son as he was carried to the burial is touched today by the woe of the bereaved mother. He who wept tears of sympathy at the grave of Lazarus, and gave back to (2)Martha and (3)Mary their buried brother; who pardoned (4)Mary Magdalene; who remembered (5)His mother when He was hanging in agony upon the cross; who appeared to the weeping women, and made them His messengers to spread the first glad tidings of a risen Saviour--He is woman's best friend today, and is ready to aid her in all the relations of life. {RC 170.5}
I have given where I thought this was talking about 5 different women each a number this time. Notice the Mary's numbers 3 & 4. If it meant the same Mary as Lazarus' sister Mary, why use the last name Magdalene when speaking about the number 4 woman? To me this would be because it is a different Mary all together. Of course this is just my thought. I have not done anymore searching in the Spirit of Prohecy lately on this...
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Re: Questions on Mary Magdalene
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05/01/02 05:20 PM
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Hi, all! I was doing a study on my own to find out why people thought Mary of Bethany was a bad person as I had read that she was in the cradle roll lesson. If you look back in John's message from April 15, this is the passage from EG White that would cause me to believe that Mary of Bethany and Mary Magdalene are one and the same. "Mary had been looked upon as a great sinner, but Christ knew the circumstances that had shaped her life.....Seven times she had heard His rebuke of the demons that controlled her heart and mind....Mary was first at the tomb after His resurrection. It was Mary who first proclaimed a risen Saviour." DA 568. I am still searching though... Lorelei
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Re: Questions on Mary Magdalene
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05/01/02 05:47 PM
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quote: Originally posted by Lorelei Grecian: If you look back in John's message from April 15, this is the passage from EG White that would cause me to believe that Mary of Bethany and Mary Magdalene are one and the same.
Thank you Lorelei for your post. I have read that but I must have forgotten it and also must have missed it in the above post. I am going to take my DA to work today and re-read the whole chapter. Thank you again for bringing this to our attention. So very grateful for study of the Bible and Spirit of Prophecy to bring out the truths.
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Re: Questions on Mary Magdalene
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05/02/02 05:03 PM
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I took the Desire of The Ages to work yesterday and received such a blessing from the study of Mary Magdelene. I am going to share the places from this book that shows that Mary, Martha and Lazarus's sister was Mary Magdelene. These quotes will be from The Desire of The Ages, Chapter 62 - The Feast at Simon's House; and Chapter 82 - Why Weepest Thou? quote: While this plotting was going on at Jerusalem, Jesus and His friends were invited to Simon's feast. At the table the Saviour sat with Simon, whom He had cured of a loathsome disease, on one side, and Lazarus, whom He had raised from the dead, on the other. Martha served at the table, but Mary was earnestly listening to every word from the lips of Jesus. In His mercy, Jesus had pardoned her sins, He had called forth her beloved brother from the grave, and Mary's heart was filled with gratitude....Breaking her box of ointment, she poured its contents upon the head and feet of Jesus; then, as she knelt weeping, moistening them with her tears, she wiped His feet with her long, flowing hair. {DA 558.4}
quote: Simon the host had been influenced by the criticism of Judas upon Mary's gift, and he was surprised at the conduct of Jesus. His Pharisaic pride was offended. He knew that many of his guests were looking upon Christ with distrust and displeasure. Simon said in his heart, "This Man, if He were a prophet, would have known who and what manner of woman this is that toucheth Him: for she is a sinner." {DA 566.1}...Simon had led into sin the woman he now despised. She had been deeply wronged by him.This above quote does not really need to be in here for showing who Mary was..I just wanted to include it as I thought it was a good lesson for all of us.
quote: Mary had been looked upon as a great sinner, but Christ knew the circumstances that had shaped her life. He might have extinguished every spark of hope in her soul, but He did not. It was He who had lifted her from despair and ruin. Seven times she had heard His rebuke of the demons that controlled her heart and mind.
quote: ...It was Mary who sat at His feet and learned of Him. It was Mary who poured upon His head the precious anointing oil, and bathed His feet with her tears. Mary stood beside the cross, and followed Him to the sepulcher. Mary was first at the tomb after His resurrection. It was Mary who first proclaimed a risen Saviour. {DA 568.2}]
quote: The women had not all come to the tomb from the same direction. Mary Magdalene was the first to reach the place; and upon seeing that the stone was removed, she hurried away to tell the disciples.
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Re: Questions on Mary Magdalene
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05/03/02 01:22 AM
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I thought I would look up some Bible texts on this. quote:
Luke 8:2 And certain women, which had been healed of evil spirits and infirmities, Mary called Magdalene, out of whom went seven devils, John 8:3 And the scribes and Pharisees brought unto him a woman taken in adultery; and when they had set her in the midst, John 11:1 Now a certain man was sick, named Lazarus, of Bethany, the town of Mary and her sister Martha. 2 (It was that Mary which anointed the Lord with ointment, and wiped his feet with her hair, whose brother Lazarus was sick.)
It is obvious that it was Mary of Bethany who "anointed the Lord with ointment, and wiped his feet with her hair." Now what about the woman caught in adultery? Where or how does she fit into the scheme of things? The search continues.
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Re: Questions on Mary Magdalene
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05/03/02 01:31 AM
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Hi, All! SOP writes of Mary in Testimonies on Sexual Behavior, Adultery, and Divorce (Chapter Title: Love for the Erring and Tempted). She does not come right out and say that Mary's sins were of that nature.she does refer to the woman accused of adultery later in the same section, however, not in reference to Mary, but rather as another example. Still searching Lorelei
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Re: Questions on Mary Magdalene
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05/03/02 01:32 AM
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From DA 566 comes the following which Avalee had also quoted: "Simon had led into sin the woman he now despised." Isn't this referring to the woman caught in adultery scene?
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Re: Questions on Mary Magdalene
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05/03/02 01:48 AM
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Now let us take another look at Luke 8:2 below: quote:
Luke 8:2 And certain women, which had been healed of evil spirits and infirmities, Mary called Magdalene, out of whom went seven devils,
Let us compare this with the following SOP quote from DA page 568: quote:
Seven times she (Mary) had heard His rebuke of the demons that controlled her heart and mind.
This would mean that Mary Magdalene and Mary of Bethany are the same person?
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Re: Questions on Mary Magdalene
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05/03/02 05:58 PM
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quote: Originally posted by Daryl Fawcett: From DA 566 comes the following which Avalee had also quoted:"Simon had led into sin the woman he now despised." Isn't this referring to the woman caught in adultery scene?
quote: Simon the host had been influenced by the criticism of Judas upon Mary's gift, and he was surprised at the conduct of Jesus. His Pharisaic pride was offended. He knew that many of his guests were looking upon Christ with distrust and displeasure. Simon said in his heart, "This Man, if He were a prophet, would have known who and what manner of woman this is that toucheth Him: for she is a sinner." {DA 566.1}...Simon had led into sin the woman he now despised. She had been deeply wronged by him.
This tells us that Simon had led Mary, Martha and Lazarus sister, who is also Mary Magdalene into sin. This is all from the same chapter about the Feast at Simon's house. Very plain that Simon led her into sin and had been wronged by him..
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