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Re: Lesson Study # 10 - David and Bathsheba: Adultery and AFTER [Re: Johann] #91700
09/04/07 09:46 PM
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Not quite, is he?

I mean, he was not a canonical prophet (nothing he wrote was included in the biblical canon), but it's interesting that he brought a message of rebuke to a canonical prophet.

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Re: Lesson Study # 10 - David and Bathsheba: Adultery and AFTER [Re: crater] #91702
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Crater,

You touched an important point.

"David had committed a grievous sin, toward both Uriah and Bathsheba... Though there would be found none in Israel to execute the sentence of death upon the anointed of the Lord, David trembled, lest, guilty and unforgiven, he should be cut down by the swift judgment of God. But the message was sent him by the prophet, 'The Lord also hath put away thy sin; thou shalt not die.' Yet justice must be maintained. The sentence of death was transferred from David to the child of his sin. Thus the king was given opportunity for repentance; while to him the suffering and death of the child, as a part of his punishment, was far more bitter than his own death could have been. The prophet said, 'Because by this deed thou hast given great occasion to the enemies of the Lord to blaspheme, the child also that is born unto thee shall surely die'" (PP 722).

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Re: Lesson Study # 10 - David and Bathsheba: Adultery and AFTER [Re: Rosangela] #91704
09/05/07 04:42 AM
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 Originally Posted By: Rosangela
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Not quite, is he?

I mean, he was not a canonical prophet (nothing he wrote was included in the biblical canon), but it's interesting that he brought a message of rebuke to a canonical prophet.

Yes I agree, that is interesting.

Apparently like some of the other OT prophets, Nathan didn't take up the pen and write, yet some of his spoken words were recorded in scripture.

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Re: Lesson Study # 10 - David and Bathsheba: Adultery and AFTER [Re: crater] #91705
09/05/07 09:14 AM
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 Originally Posted By: crater
 Originally Posted By: Rosangela
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Not quite, is he?

I mean, he was not a canonical prophet (nothing he wrote was included in the biblical canon), but it's interesting that he brought a message of rebuke to a canonical prophet.

Yes I agree, that is interesting.

Apparently like some of the other OT prophets, Nathan didn't take up the pen and write, yet some of his spoken words were recorded in scripture.


Neither did Jesus. Is He canonical? He wrote in the sand, but we do not have the words He wrote.


"Here is a last piece of advice. If you believe in goodness and if you value the approval of God, fix your minds on the things which are holy and right and pure and beautiful and good. Model your conduct on what you have learned from me, on what I have told you and shown you, and you will find the God of peace will be with you."
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Re: Lesson Study # 10 - David and Bathsheba: Adultery and AFTER [Re: crater] #91708
09/05/07 12:40 PM
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Apparently like some of the other OT prophets, Nathan didn't take up the pen and write, yet some of his spoken words were recorded in scripture.

In fact, he produced writings (1 Chron. 29:29, 2 Chron. 9:29), but they apparently weren't included in the canon. So he and other prophets, like Gad, Ahijah, and Iddo are literary but non-canonical prophets. Ellen White is also included in this category.
The fact that a non-canonical prophet brought a message of God to a canonical prophet shows that there are no degrees of inspiration or authority.

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Re: Lesson Study # 10 - David and Bathsheba: Adultery and AFTER [Re: Rosangela] #91710
09/05/07 01:37 PM
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Interesting,

Though not included in the cannon are any of the mentioned bools or writings in existence today?

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Re: Lesson Study # 10 - David and Bathsheba: Adultery and AFTER [Re: crater] #91714
09/05/07 02:38 PM
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No, they aren’t in existence today. We don’t know if those books and the writings of other non-canonical literary prophets still existed by the time the OT canon was formed (perhaps 400 B.C.); therefore, we do not know if their exclusion was a deliberate decision on the part of the compiler(s), or if there was no choice because the books had already been lost.

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Re: Lesson Study # 10 - David and Bathsheba: Adultery and AFTER [Re: Rosangela] #91715
09/05/07 04:59 PM
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 Originally Posted By: Rosangela
Yet justice must be maintained. The sentence of death was transferred from David to the child of his sin.


Does this mean that the sentence of death, in general, can be passed around?


By God's grace,
Arnold

There is no excuse for any one in taking the position that there is no more truth to be revealed, and that all our expositions of Scripture are without an error. The fact that certain doctrines have been held as truth for many years by our people, is not a proof that our ideas are infallible. Age will not make error into truth, and truth can afford to be fair. No true doctrine will lose anything by close investigation. RH 12/20/1892
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Re: Lesson Study # 10 - David and Bathsheba: Adultery and AFTER [Re: asygo] #91722
09/05/07 08:15 PM
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 Originally Posted By: asygo
 Originally Posted By: Rosangela
Yet justice must be maintained. The sentence of death was transferred from David to the child of his sin.


Does this mean that the sentence of death, in general, can be passed around?


This is a good question, Arnold. Did the young child become David´s savior? A substitute or a peace offering?


"Here is a last piece of advice. If you believe in goodness and if you value the approval of God, fix your minds on the things which are holy and right and pure and beautiful and good. Model your conduct on what you have learned from me, on what I have told you and shown you, and you will find the God of peace will be with you."
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Re: Lesson Study # 10 - David and Bathsheba: Adultery and AFTER [Re: Johann] #91723
09/05/07 08:35 PM
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You guys certainly do have an interesting discussion going on here! \:\)

I am also scheduled to present the lesson study in our church this coming Sabbath.


In His Love, Mercy & Grace,

Daryl smile

John 8:32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.

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