Hello Simone,

As you probably know, some Seventh-day Adventists believe Ellen White was a prophet inspired by God the Father, Yahweh, Jehovah - The Almighty God who created all things through His Son Christ Jesus. And some even follow her advice. You are correct that her counsel has largely been eschewed, but this does not render your testimony truthful, simply because it contains factual elements. If it were possible that EGW were alive this would virtually prove her to be a false prophet. She died while strongly warning that the cornerstone of Spiritualism was the immortality of the soul, and she wrote often of the coming Sunday Law(s). Her record is now closed, though her words live on. To know what she believed, she instructed us to read her published works.

It is possible that an anointed one could appear in the next 12 days, before year's end. But based upon your testimony, this could not be Christ, the Messiah, the Anointed One of God ("How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth, with the Holy Ghost and with power" - Acts 10:38) because you claim that Satan's Rebellion has already ended. This cannot be, for even one thousand years after Christ's Second Coming, Satan still "must be loosed a little season." Revelation 20:3.

Instead, the Deceiver himself will proclaim "Peace & Safety." So if a christ appears, it will be a false christ anointed with the spirit of Satan; an anti-christ. (One who is either against, or takes the place of Christ.)

Many of your claims could be answered, but a mixture of truth & error will not deceive those who are Bible students. Some who follow Urantia are well intentioned. One man I know has built his own home off the grid, an example for those who claim these are the last days. But I will not read his books, for only the Word of God is a "discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart" for "them that believe to the saving of the soul." Hebrews 4:12, 10:39.

For there is one God , and one Mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus. By His Word we are to live.

Have to agree with you, Gordon. That message starts out with a false statement. Elder Don Schneider is not, nor has he ever been the head of the whole General Conference of Seventh-day Adventists. He is only the president of one of the Divisions. I think the Good Lord knows better, if He should have had anything to do with that message.

Daryl, do you find truth in this?

Why is this all even allowed to be posted here?

I guess the level of truthfullness to the OP message is at best comparable to that of the witch of Endor or the talking serpent in the tree of Eden. Or less...

I have removed those topics, as well as the OP in the topic where you replied to the now removed OP for the purpose of both issuing a warning and making a response to this sort of stuff.

This is where we can now continue to discuss and warn against such satanic nonsense.

The member who posted this stuff is now banned.

The same message and messenger popped up in another forum I'm on. Her testimony was refuted point-by-point with Scripture. She has not replied to any questions.

"Satanic nonsense" it is!

Considering the channelling/witchcraft/satanic nature of it all, I didn't think this person would have responded to any of it.

The story of Saul and the witch of Endor is a clear reason as to why we should even dialogue with such people.

Saul did an abominable thing when he inquired of the witch of Endor.

The following tells us that we are to have nothing to do with them:

The real problem with the deleted message is not simply that it is an obvious case of someone telepathically connecting with a demonic spirit... but the wider group to which this person has given references.... that of The Urantia Book... advertised as a "God's 'New Book'"... and the Urantian Movement that has been quietly growing in numbers and force over the last hundred years.

And this should be of interest to Adventists... not merely as an "Exhibit A" evidence of the growing prevalence of satanic spirit communication with humans and thus one more opportunity for those who wish to do so to point to it in a condemnatory way and dismiss it without attention or discussion because it is so "obviously" wrong... and even evil.... but ALSO because it has a little known, but very real connection to Adventism... some of which may make it very seductive to Adventist members.

Before anyone goes to examine the website to see just how they are currently "marketing" their product and philosophy, I would STRONGLY recommend that you prepare your minds by reading the 1) history of how the book came to be, 2) an analysis of both the theology and science that is "revealed" in the book, and 3) the similarities to Adventist key doctrines.... which may well be the "lures" that fisherman Satan uses to "hook" those Adventists that run into those things before they run into the blatant errors as revealed by Simone's "telepathic" tale.

All this can be done by reading one book by Martin Gardner, a professional researcher and critic of all things claimed to be supernatural but can be shown to NOT be so. He does, however, along with his healthy skepticism, which has enabled him to debunk a host of "para-normal" claims through the years, retain a basic belief that there ARE things which can be accurately labeled as "super-natural"... so he does not merely dismiss the Urantia book as "hoax"... but objectively follows every clue as to whether or not it was no more than a clever hoax or was in fact, what it claims to be... the answers to a lot of questions put to many different "entities" which claimed to be various identities from "the other side".

The name of the book is, Urantia: The Great Cult Mystery, published 1995 by Prometheus Books. Available from amazon.com, new and used. At 438 pages, it is not a book for a "quick read" or for the faint-hearted reader. It is, however, IMO, a "must read" for those who are serious about preparing themselves to meet what I believe will be increasing challenges to Christianity in general and to Adventists specifically. I would especially urge those on this list who are administrative positions in the Adventist church, to investigate this book thoroughly. If you are in GC headquarters, there is, I believe, a copy held by the EGW Estate office there. There is also one at the Andrews University library.

I should also mention that Gardner's book is not without its critics. But IMO, he is much more credible/accurate than his critics.