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Re: 'Sins of Omission' or the unknown sin......
[Re: Mountain Man]
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03/12/08 02:13 AM
03/12/08 02:13 AM
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First, I'd like to thank you, MM, for making my evening more pleasant. I'm late at work trying to get a program to work, and have to spend a lot of time waiting while it compiles so I can try to fix things. It's great to able to carry on these discussions with you as the program does its thing. I do not focus on God's character; instead, I focus on Jesus, who is the express image of God. It seems to me you focus a lot on behavior. I don't see anything wrong with focusing on God's character. That's the core issue. And, of course, when we've seen Jesus, we've seen the Father, so it's by studying Jesus' life and character that we know what God is really like. It is the darkness of misapprehension of God that is enshrouding the world. Men are losing their knowledge of His character. It has been misunderstood and misinterpreted. At this time a message from God is to be proclaimed, a message illuminating in its influence and saving in its power. His character is to be made known. Into the darkness of the world is to be shed the light of His glory, the light of His goodness, mercy, and truth.
This is the work outlined by the prophet Isaiah in the words, "O Jerusalem, that bringest good tidings, lift up thy voice with strength; lift it up, be not afraid; say unto the cities of Judah, Behold your God! Behold, the Lord God will come with strong hand, and His arm shall rule for Him; behold, His reward is with Him, and His work before Him." Isa. 40:9,10.
Those who wait for the Bridegroom's coming are to say to the people, "Behold your God." The last rays of merciful light, the last message of mercy to be given to the world, is a revelation of His character of love. (COL 415)
Those who wait for the Bridegroom's coming are to say to the people, "Behold your God." The last rays of merciful light, the last message of mercy to be given to the world, is a revelation of His character of love.
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Re: 'Sins of Omission' or the unknown sin......
[Re: Tom]
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03/12/08 02:22 PM
03/12/08 02:22 PM
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TE: First, I'd like to thank you, MM, for making my evening more pleasant.
MM: You're welcome. It's not often that we post back-to-back like this. It is nice.
TE: It seems to me you focus a lot on behavior.
MM: I realize it seems like I focus on behavior, but if you knew me in person you'd realize it isn't so. I am a total Jesus "freak", and usually people accuse me of being soft on sin. Can you believe it?
What do you think about the idea that the Holy Spirit will not let us go on in ignorance, not realizing we are being unloving and unlike Jesus in how we think and feel about others, in how we treat them?
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Re: 'Sins of Omission' or the unknown sin......
[Re: Mountain Man]
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03/12/08 02:50 PM
03/12/08 02:50 PM
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What do you think about the idea that the Holy Spirit will not let us go on in ignorance, not realizing we are being unloving and unlike Jesus in how we think and feel about others, in how we treat them? I think this is basically true. However, I can think of certain situations where the Holy Spirit might not reveal something right away, but wait for a bit. For example, there may be certain traumatic situations in childhood that would have to be brought up to reveal some wrong attitude a person might have, which the person isn't ready to deal with, so the Holy Spirit works little by little to heal the person from the traumatic childhood. But, again, I basically agree with your statement, although it's also possible that we could treat someone in a way that hurts them out of ignorance, just because we don't know the person. (however, this wouldn't necessarily be a sin) Well, I'm adding some caveats, but again, I agree with your statement, that we should know when we are treating others in an unloving manner. The second of the great commandments involves are loving our neighbor, and it's the Holy Spirit's job to convict us of sin.
Those who wait for the Bridegroom's coming are to say to the people, "Behold your God." The last rays of merciful light, the last message of mercy to be given to the world, is a revelation of His character of love.
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Re: 'Sins of Omission' or the unknown sin......
[Re: Mountain Man]
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03/12/08 03:10 PM
03/12/08 03:10 PM
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MM: I realize it seems like I focus on behavior, but if you knew me in person you'd realize it isn't so. I am a total Jesus "freak", and usually people accuse me of being soft on sin. Can you believe it?
You are right, you as a soft-on-sin Jesus freak isn't what I come to think. But I guess it is true as they say that the opportunity makes the thief.  I.e. we say things in a context.
Galatians 2
21 I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain.
It is so hazardous to take here a little and there a little. If you put the right little's together you can make the bible teach anything you wish. //Graham Maxwell
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Re: 'Sins of Omission' or the unknown sin......
[Re: vastergotland]
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03/12/08 03:41 PM
03/12/08 03:41 PM
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That's what I love about Jesus - He works with us so that we can love one another the way love He loves us, which is behavior at its best.
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Re: 'Sins of Omission' or the unknown sin......
[Re: Tom]
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03/15/08 09:02 AM
03/15/08 09:02 AM
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What do you think about the idea that the Holy Spirit will not let us go on in ignorance, not realizing we are being unloving and unlike Jesus in how we think and feel about others, in how we treat them? I think this is basically true. However, I can think of certain situations where the Holy Spirit might not reveal something right away, but wait for a bit. For example, there may be certain traumatic situations in childhood that would have to be brought up to reveal some wrong attitude a person might have, which the person isn't ready to deal with, so the Holy Spirit works little by little to heal the person from the traumatic childhood. But, again, I basically agree with your statement, although it's also possible that we could treat someone in a way that hurts them out of ignorance, just because we don't know the person. (however, this wouldn't necessarily be a sin) Well, I'm adding some caveats, but again, I agree with your statement, that we should know when we are treating others in an unloving manner. The second of the great commandments involves are loving our neighbor, and it's the Holy Spirit's job to convict us of sin. Well, just to tell a bit of story of how personality shows even while we are young, I raise Chow Chows. When I go to look at a litter, I look for certain traits of a calm demeaner but fearless. You will see it quickly as one of the litter will stand his ground and defend the rest, then you must pick him up to see if is also loving, two traits that you think would be in conflict but yet if you find the right pup, they are there almost from the day they are born.....
Last edited by Richard; 03/15/08 09:04 AM.
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