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Re: No Temptation Too Difficult To Resist! - What? Help!
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03/30/05 02:05 AM
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Yes. Jesus' life as a man on earth.
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Re: No Temptation Too Difficult To Resist! - What? Help!
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03/30/05 02:06 AM
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The book of Job seems to be a good example for that. God told the devil to stop when he saw Job had enough.
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Re: No Temptation Too Difficult To Resist! - What? Help!
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03/30/05 03:13 AM
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There is a difference between temptation, trial, difficulty and suffering.
The question here is temptation. Temptation is not trial, difficulty or suffering.
Jam 1:14 But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed.
All temptation comes from ones own lust.
The trials, difficulties or suffering may come from others including Satan.
Which makes temptation stronger? Is it trial, difficulty, suffering; or ease, prosperity, affluence?
Jam 1:13 Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God: for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man:
Jam 1:15 Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death.
Jam 1:16 Do not err, my beloved brethren.
Jam 1:17 Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, and cometh down from the Father of lights, with whom is no variableness, neither shadow of turning.
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Re: No Temptation Too Difficult To Resist! - What? Help!
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03/30/05 03:56 AM
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But wasn't the devil trying to temp Job to curse and abandon God?
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Re: No Temptation Too Difficult To Resist! - What? Help!
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03/30/05 05:26 AM
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John, where is the evidence that God regulated how Satan tempted Jesus? Was it necessary for God to prevent Satan from tempting Jesus too much? Did Jesus possess certain weaknesses that made it necessary for God to restrain Satan?
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Re: No Temptation Too Difficult To Resist! - What? Help!
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03/30/05 11:07 AM
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Mike,
Some quotes that might be of help.
About Peter:
"Had Peter walked humbly with God, hiding self in Christ; had he earnestly looked for divine help; had he been less self-confident; had he received the Lord's instruction and practised it, he would have been watching unto prayer, working out his own salvation with fear and trembling. Had he closely examined himself, the Lord would have given him divine help, and there would have been no need of Satan's sifting. The enemy can not overcome the humble learner of Christ, the one who walks prayerfully before the Lord. Christ interposes himself as a shelter, a retreat, from the assaults of the wicked one. The promise is given, "When the enemy shall come in like a flood, the Spirit of the Lord shall lift up a standard against him." Peter was not intelligent in regard to his own defects of character. He did not see his need of the power and grace of Christ in order that he might know himself.
"Satan was permitted to tempt the too confident Peter, as he had been permitted to tempt Job; but when that work was done, he had to retire. Had Satan been suffered to have his way, there would have been no hope for Peter. He would have made complete shipwreck of faith. But the enemy dare not go one hair's-breadth beyond his appointed sphere. There is no power in the whole satanic force that can disable the soul that trusts, in simple confidence, in the wisdom that comes from God." {YI, December 15, 1898 par. 5}
About Jesus:
"In the wilderness, weakened physically by a fast of forty days, He met His adversary. His dignity was questioned, His authority disputed, His allegiance to His Father assailed by the fallen foe. All heaven watched the conflict between the Prince of Light and the prince of darkness. Angels stood ready to interpose in Christ's behalf should Satan pass the prescribed limit." {ST, October 17, 1900}
"These were real temptations, no pretense. Christ 'suffered being tempted' (Heb. 2:18). Angels of heaven were on the scene on that occasion, and kept the standard uplifted, that Satan should not exceed his bounds and overpower the human nature of Christ."--1SM 94.
There was a limit for Christ's temptations too. Satan's temptations could be above what His human nature could bear.
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Re: No Temptation Too Difficult To Resist! - What? Help!
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03/30/05 12:16 PM
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Spot on! Good finds. ![[Smile]](images/icons/smile.gif)
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Re: No Temptation Too Difficult To Resist! - What? Help!
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03/30/05 08:29 PM
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Amen! I'm glad to learn that even Jesus needed the kind of help we need. I guess it all boils down to faith and trust. God's promises work IF we cooperate with Him. Perhaps that's why there is no excuse for committing known sins. But what about unintentional sins? aren't they kind of, sort of, excusable? You know, the ones that just slip out without, supposedly, any warning?
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Re: No Temptation Too Difficult To Resist! - What? Help!
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03/30/05 08:54 PM
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quote:
"In the wilderness, weakened physically by a fast of forty days, He met His adversary. His dignity was questioned, His authority disputed, His allegiance to His Father assailed by the fallen foe. All heaven watched the conflict between the Prince of Light and the prince of darkness. Angels stood ready to interpose in Christ's behalf should Satan pass the prescribed limit." {ST, October 17, 1900}
Nice find.
I would have said the same thing without the quote, the reason being that Christ's strongest tempations were at the cross. Christ's whole life led up to the confrontation He would have with the devil at the cross. It is regarding this temptation that the following quotations are primarily referencing, I believe:
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Yet into the world where Satan claimed dominion God permitted His Son to come, a helpless babe, subject to the weakness of humanity. He permitted Him to meet life's peril in common with every human soul, to fight the battle as every child of humanity must fight it, at the risk of failure and eternal loss.
The heart of the human father yearns over his son. He looks into the face of his little child, and trembles at the thought of life's peril. He longs to shield his dear one from Satan's power, to hold him back from temptation and conflict. To meet a bitterer conflict and a more fearful risk, God gave His only-begotten Son, that the path of life might be made sure for our little ones. "Herein is love." Wonder, O heavens! and be astonished, O earth! (DA 49)
Remember that Christ risked all. For our redemption, heaven itself was imperiled. (COL 196)
The temptation in the wilderness was a great temptation, much greater than what it appears, and one to which God had been preparing Christ His whole life. But is was a tempation which He could bear at that point, but not the greatest of possible temptations, and not one beyond what Christ could have born (as per the quotation of Rosangela).
The cross, I believe, was the greatest of any possible temptation. Since Christ overcame that tempation, the greatest of any possible temptation, He condemned sin in the flesh, crucifying it at the root. By Christ's "one righteous act" self and sin were forever crucified in principle, and the human race was set free.
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Re: No Temptation Too Difficult To Resist! - What? Help!
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03/31/05 01:32 AM
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quote:
Originally posted by Mike Lowe:
But what about unintentional sins? aren't they kind of, sort of, excusable? You know, the ones that just slip out without, supposedly, any warning?
I don't think this would be classified as a temptation. Even if we do slip up, God will still forgive us.
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