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Re: Astronomy question
[Re: jamesonofthunder]
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03/02/12 04:46 PM
03/02/12 04:46 PM
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SDA Charter Member Active Member 2019
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Jesus said, "This gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come." Does this apply to your message? If so, how many people around the world have been informed?
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Re: Astronomy question
[Re: Mountain Man]
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03/02/12 07:42 PM
03/02/12 07:42 PM
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The message that I am inspired is the same message that is in the Spirit of Prophecy. The gospel message has already been given to the world in the same light that our founders received it, but most of the American SDA church has gone astray in their beliefs. So many unsound doctrines have infiltrated our church and this dilution of the power of the truth has led our leaders to fall asleep at the wheel, teaching "everything remains the same" but it is not.
The message that God has given our church through men in the same Spirit as me will take the church back to its primitive understanding, pointing to the foundation of our faith, showing that the foundation should be still as it was in 31 AD or 1844. But now the coming of the Lord is truly eminent.
What I know I am witnessing is the refining of our faith in Jesus. No one will ever be called out of the church again. The SDA church is THE end time church that has the privilege of proclaiming the truth in power and strength. This message will draw men back to the foundation in our church, and when the prophecies come true, it will strengthen our faith and determination to proclaim it.
Jesus always works in the same pattern throughout history. Just as the Christians did for the Jews, we are to proclaim the refining of our faith to the church first, then the world. When the later rain falls and the 144,000 are proclaiming the loud cry, then the rest of the church will be sadly lost, but the 144,000 will lead a vast multitude out of error from the fallen churches.
Zechariah 13:8 In the whole land,” declares the LORD, “two-thirds will be struck down and perish; yet one-third will be left in it.
Search me oh God and know my heart, test me and know my anxious thoughts, see if there is any offensive way in me and lead me to the way everlasting. Amen
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Re: Astronomy question
[Re: jamesonofthunder]
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03/03/12 03:36 PM
03/03/12 03:36 PM
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"The message that I am inspired is the same message that is in the Spirit of Prophecy." Is this a typo? Or, did you mean to say "I am inspired"?
"The gospel message has already been given to the world in the same light that our founders received it". What is your source? As I travel, I meet people who have never heard of SDAs, people who know nothing about the 3AMs. What do you make of it?
". . . most of the American SDA church has gone astray in their beliefs. So many unsound doctrines have infiltrated our church". In what sense do you mean? Are you referring to the official 28 fundamental beliefs?
". . . the foundation of our faith . . . should be still as it was in 31 AD or 1844." What do you mean by 1844? As you know, many of our beliefs were discovered after 1844.
"The SDA church is THE end time church". Amen!
"This message will draw men back to the foundation in our church, and when the prophecies come true, it will strengthen our faith and determination to proclaim it." What is the foundation? What message are you referring to? How many people around the world are currently aware of it? And, how many people believe it?
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Re: Astronomy question
[Re: Mountain Man]
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03/04/12 12:59 AM
03/04/12 12:59 AM
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When the Holy Spirit was poured out on the day of Pentecost it was the same spirit that led to the 1844 message. The foundation of our faith is the unsealing of the Books of Daniel and Revelation and is the experience of the founders in how God revealed the special testimonies to His church. It is the path that our denomination has followed, and since very few people teach the peculiar experience of our great disappointment of 1844 they are dismantling the foundation of our experience.
The doctrines within our church that people have forsaken are these fundamental beliefs, the pillars of our faith. (I recently heard a pastor say that everyone on earth will be saved because Jesus died for even the wicked, and this was at an SDA camp meeting of 2000 people and NO ONE objected but me)
"Our faith in reference to the messages of the first, second, and third angels was correct. The great way-marks we have passed are immovable. Although the hosts of hell may try to tear them from their foundation, and triumph in the thought that they have succeeded, yet they do not succeed. These pillars of truth stand firm as the eternal hills, unmoved by all the efforts of men combined with those of Satan and his host. We can learn much, and should be constantly searching the Scriptures to see if these things are so. God’s people are now to have their eyes fixed on the heavenly sanctuary, where the final ministration of our great High Priest in the work of the judgment is going forward,—where He is interceding for His people.” The Review and Herald, November 27, 1883. {LS 278.2}
Beyond that foundation, The 28 fundamental beliefs are as God wants them.
The experience that I have had led me to fully accept what our church has experienced. In this faith that God gave me I have seen with my own eyes what the Spirit of God had taught Mrs. White and the 120 in the upper room. I am experiencing the effect of embracing these wonderful truths and I do not dispute His testimony.
Search me oh God and know my heart, test me and know my anxious thoughts, see if there is any offensive way in me and lead me to the way everlasting. Amen
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Re: Astronomy question
[Re: jamesonofthunder]
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03/04/12 03:48 PM
03/04/12 03:48 PM
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James, please answer the rest of my questions. Thank you.
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Re: Astronomy question
[Re: Mountain Man]
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03/04/12 08:44 PM
03/04/12 08:44 PM
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James, please answer the rest of my questions. Thank you. If I missed the intent of your question does it not seem prudent to restate the said question in a way that you will get the answer you seek?
Search me oh God and know my heart, test me and know my anxious thoughts, see if there is any offensive way in me and lead me to the way everlasting. Amen
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Re: Astronomy question
[Re: jamesonofthunder]
#140367
03/05/12 01:17 AM
03/05/12 01:17 AM
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Oh, I see. Thank you. I'll reread your post.
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