Time to move.
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I have a friend that is selling his $150K house to build a $4,000 cabin.

He is someone who is putting his money where his mouth is.

Maybe those places are now where we should flee to?

But can someone help me think through this:

If the pope is god on earth,
Did god just retire?
Was god tired or did he otherwise have health issues?
Are there now two gods on earth?
Is the former infallible man now fallible, or are there now two infallible men?

kland, your post reveals a profound misunderstanding of the Catholic doctrines of vicarius filii dei, and of papal infalibility.

The Pope does not claim to be god (or God), and he is not, nor claims to be, infallible.

Do a little internet search and you'll find out why.

JAK,

Papal infallibility is a dogma of the RCC (although it's a qualified infallibility). As to the title vicarius filli dei, the vicar (representative) of the Son of God on earth is the Holy Spirit, so anyone who claims to be the vicar of Christ is trying to assume the Holy Spirit's role, and the Holy Spirit is God. This is not to mention some blasphemous claims which have been made by/about the pope ( http://biblelight.net/Extravagantes.htm ). So what do you mean?

So we see that it is the OFFICE of POPE that is infalibile, not the man himself.

Secondly, vicarius filii dei is not an official designation of the Pope, nor is it (as is erroneously reported) inscribed on his mitre.

So kland is wrong on both counts.

P.S. Rosangela, you surprise me. I thought you knew these things.

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JAK, I was referring to pope, the office. So called "god" was in office. So called "god" retired. Your quote states explicitly, "the Pope is preserved from the possibility of error". He was in the office and left the office, as if "god" could leave the office. What do you not understand?

We cannot now step off the foundation that God has established. We cannot now enter into any new organization, for this would mean apostasy from the truth.--2SM 390 (1905). {LDE 55.2}

I am instructed to say to Seventh-day Adventists the world over, God has called us as a people to be a peculiar treasure unto Himself. He has appointed that His church on earth shall stand perfectly united in the Spirit and counsel of the Lord of hosts to the end of time.--2SM 397 (1908). {LDE 55.3}

At times, when a small group of men entrusted with the general management of the work have, in the name of the General Conference, sought to carry out unwise plans to restrict God's work, I have said that I could no longer regard the voice of the General Conference, represented by these few men, as the voice of God. But this is not saying that the decisions of a General Conference composed of an assembly of duly appointed, representative men from all parts of the field should not be respected. {LDE 55.4}

God has ordained that the representatives of His church from all parts of the earth, when assembled in a General Conference, shall have authority. The error that some are in danger of committing is in giving to the mind and judgment of one man, or of a small group of men, the full measure of authority and influence that God has invested in His church in the judgment and voice of the General Conference assembled to plan for the prosperity and advancement of His work.--9T 260, 261 (1909). {LDE 56.1}

God has invested His church with special authority and power which no one can be justified in disregarding and despising, for he who does this despises the voice of God.--AA 164 (1911). {LDE 56.2}

I am encouraged and blessed as I realize that the God of Israel is still guiding His people and that He will continue to be with them, even to the end.--2SM 406 (1913). [FROM ELLEN WHITE'S FINAL MESSAGE TO THE SEVENTH-DAY ADVENTIST CHURCH IN GENERAL CONFERENCE SESSION. THESE REASSURING WORDS WERE READ TO THE SESSION BY THE GENERAL CONFERENCE PRESIDENT, A. G. DANIELLS, ON MAY 27, 1913.] {LDE 56.3}

Christ gives power to the voice of the church. "Verily I say unto you, Whatsoever ye shall bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever ye shall loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven." No such thing is countenanced as one man's starting out upon his own individual responsibility and advocating what views he chooses, irrespective of the judgment of the church. God has bestowed the highest power under heaven upon His church. It is the voice of God in His united people in church capacity which is to be respected. 431 {CCh 241.4}

MM, what are you saying with these quotes?