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Re: Pope Benedict to Resign [Re: Daryl] #151460
04/02/13 12:37 AM
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Curiously enough, I just watched a Youtube video that mentions Jesuits and EGW.

Here's the link:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xS8vEAZaMXw

According to the video, the Jesuits are familiar with EGW and hold her in high regard.

Never heard that one before. dunno


"All that is Gold does not Glitter, Not all who Wander are Lost." (J.R.R.T.)
Re: Pope Benedict to Resign [Re: JAK] #151463
04/02/13 01:05 AM
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I guess I will need to check that out.


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Re: Pope Benedict to Resign [Re: JAK] #151496
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According to the video, the Jesuits are familiar with EGW and hold her in high regard.

Anyone can make unsupported claims.

Ellen White speaks about "Jesuits infiltrating not only the SDA Church, but also the Catholic Church, eventually... ascending to the papacy in the latter days." Where is the support for this?

"The jesuits hold her in high regard and talk about her too much." Where is the support for this?

Re: Pope Benedict to Resign [Re: Rosangela] #151497
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I just looked up the term Jesuit on the Ellen White database and found 19 statements related to that word. Not one of them mentions the latter days. Several of them identify a Jesuit who converted to the truth and wrote a book under a Jewish pseudonym that helped advance the advent message. Most of them speak of historical events and how the order of Jesuits began. I didn't see any that specifically stated Jesuits had infiltrated our church or that they would do so.

Blesssings,

Green Cochoa.


We can receive of heaven's light only as we are willing to be emptied of self. We can discern the character of God, and accept Christ by faith, only as we consent to the bringing into captivity of every thought to the obedience of Christ. And to all who do this, the Holy Spirit is given without measure. In Christ "dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily. And ye are complete in Him." [Colossians 2:9, 10.] {GW 57.1} -- Ellen White.
Re: Pope Benedict to Resign [Re: Rosangela] #151508
04/02/13 11:10 PM
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Originally Posted By: Rosangela
Quote:
According to the video, the Jesuits are familiar with EGW and hold her in high regard.

Anyone can make unsupported claims.

Ellen White speaks about "Jesuits infiltrating not only the SDA Church, but also the Catholic Church, eventually... ascending to the papacy in the latter days." Where is the support for this?

"The jesuits hold her in high regard and talk about her too much." Where is the support for this?


I said I watched a video, I didn't make it. I don't know what you're all so cheeky about.

Last edited by JAK; 04/02/13 11:12 PM.

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Re: Pope Benedict to Resign [Re: JAK] #151513
04/03/13 12:24 AM
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Not sure just how the Jesuits can "infiltrate" the Catholic Church. They ARE the Catholic Church... ROFL dunno


"All that is Gold does not Glitter, Not all who Wander are Lost." (J.R.R.T.)
Re: Pope Benedict to Resign [Re: JAK] #151515
04/03/13 12:43 AM
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I said I watched a video, I didn't make it. I don't know what you're all so cheeky about

?
I wasn't referring to you, but to the lady who made the video - and the claims. She claims Ellen White said this and that, without presenting any proof. She claims the jesuits have Ellen White in high regard, without presenting any proof. As I said, it's easy to make unsupported claims.

Re: Pope Benedict to Resign [Re: Rosangela] #151516
04/03/13 12:59 AM
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sorry

(She should feel right at home on this forum.)


"All that is Gold does not Glitter, Not all who Wander are Lost." (J.R.R.T.)
Re: Pope Benedict to Resign [Re: JAK] #151518
04/03/13 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted By: JAK
Not sure just how the Jesuits can "infiltrate" the Catholic Church. They ARE the Catholic Church... ROFL dunno

The Jesuit was formed by Ignatius of Loyola, who was a Marrano -- a Spaniard Jew who many were forced to convert into Christianity. Loyola created the Jesuit over 100 years after these false coversion happens. So that's how the Jesuit can "infiltrate" the Catholic Church.

Originally Posted By: Jewish Virtual Dict.
The terms “Marrano” and “converso” were applied in Spain and Portugal to the descendants of baptized Jews suspected of secret adherence to Judaism. Converso, from the Latin conversus, meant literally the converted. Various origins for the term “marrano” have been suggested, which include the Hebrew marit ayin ("the appearance of the eye"), referring to the fact that the Marranos were ostensibly Christian but actually Jews; mohoram attah ("you are excommunicated"); the Aramaic-Hebrew Mar Anus ("forced convert"); the Hebrew mumar ("apostate") with the Spanish ending ano; the Arabic mura'in ("hypocrite"); and the second word of the ecclesiastical imprecation anathema maranatha. All such derivations, however, are unlikely. The most probable is from the Spanish word meaning swine or pig, derived from the Latin verres "wild boar." The term probably did not originally refer to the Jews' reluctance to eat pork, as some scholars hold; from its earliest use, it was intended to impart the sense of loathing conveyed by the word. Although romanticized and regarded by later Jewry as a badge of honor, the term was not as widely used, especially in official circles, as is often believed. In Latin America, as a rule, it is not found in official documents, and there is little evidence of its unofficial use in most places. It is not clear if the "Old Christians" only, or the secretly practicing Jews also called themselves "marrano."

“Marranos” started appearing with the first riots in the Juderias of Spain. Many were forced to convert to Christianity to save their lives. The laws in 14th and 15th century Spain became increasingly oppressive toward practicing Jews, and conversion was provded as an alternative to death. Large numbers of middle class Jews outwardly adopting Christianity to avoid the laws, while secretly practicing Judaism.
....read the continuation at the link : http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Judaism/Marranos.html


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