No, I don't. Melashenko says that MGEs are always lethal, even when the one who has them is perfetly holy; they are 100% fatal, not good for anyone.

NO.

Was Satan's goal to kill Adam and Eve? No. While MGEs are indeed the cause of all disease, aging and death, and most are indeed ultimately fatal, the original attack's goal was not to kill be open the door.

My understanding is that Melashenko will be re-doing his 5th lecture, "What Really Happened in the Garden?" We won't know the contents of that talk until it is posted. Perhaps that will address this issue. Also recall, we still have Genesis 3:22.

Oops, misunderstood you again. Let's try another combination: You believe that if God had not forbidden it, A&E would NOT have died even though Satan HAD messed with the fruit. Right?

Melashenko said that anyone whose MGEs are not fixed cannot live in heaven, didn't he? I don't remember him talking about benign MGEs.

But I do remember him briefly touching upon the "break one law, break them all" doctrine. He said that if you let one MGE in, the rest will surely follow, which is why James said what he said. That seems to be exactly what you are suggesting as Satan's first MGE. so in the end, its lethality was inevitable.

Lecture 5 is now posted. Perhaps that will address your question.

I haven't read the lecture, just the comments in this thread.

So let's see if I can understand the theory.

1. Sin began in heaven when Satan came up with the idea that his way was better than God's ways. This raised some confusing questions in the minds of the angelic hosts and God in His wisdom will allow Satan to demonstrate his supposed better way, so all would see it wasn't better at all.

2. God creates a perfect world. Everything is perfect, including all the trees and their fruit. However due to the problem #1 a provision is made that gives Satan a very limited access to this perfect world. He is allowed to reside in one tree.

3. God, knowing what Satan would do in that one tree, warns Adam and Eve to stay away from it, and not eat of the fruit. The fruit doesn't become "bad" because of the command, but rather because Satan is allowed access there, and God's command is a warning that bad things will happen if they go there.

4. Now according to the theory, Satan injects the fruit with MGE's that aren't lethal in themselves, but contain some kind of element that would cause dissatisfaction with living according to God's law?
This is where things get a little fuzzy, as some statements seem to indicate that there were actual ingredients in the fruit that upon eating it, changed the human DNA and caused physical aging and degeneration to occur as well.

5. Once Adam and Eve partook of the fruit, it releases satan from the tree and he can inject his MGE's where ever he choses.

That's pretty close, I think. But APL hasn't clearly delineated the relationship among God's command, Adam's death, and Satan's work.

APL? Is not the topic about what is presented in the series?

Yes, but the series did not answer all questions. And since it claims to be the explanation to sin and salvation (and a radical one at that, claiming that sin does not merely HAVE a physical manifestation, but that it is a PURELY PHYSICAL phenomenon), it is reasonable to expect that it would have something to say about the entrance of sin in Eden. It is telling that its strongest proponent here, APL, has little more substantial to say about it than "I don't know because I wasn't there." One would think that the theory's authors would have at least considered it.

APL, I think you missed this post. A response would help clarify things:


Oops, misunderstood you again. Let's try another combination: You believe that if God had not forbidden it, A&E would NOT have died even though Satan HAD messed with the fruit. Right?