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Does the Holy Spirit Have a Physical Form?
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02/19/14 02:51 AM
02/19/14 02:51 AM
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Does the Holy Spirit have a physical form in the same manner that the Father and the Son have?
Be prepared to back up your answer using either the Bible or the writings of Ellen G. White.
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Re: Does the Holy Spirit Have a Physical Form?
[Re: Daryl]
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02/19/14 05:14 AM
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It is not essential for us to be able to define just what the Holy Spirit is. Christ tells us that the Spirit is the Comforter, "the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father." It is plainly declared regarding the Holy Spirit that, in His work of guiding men into all truth, "He shall not speak of Himself." John 15:26; 16:13. {AA 51.3}
The nature of the Holy Spirit is a mystery. Men cannot explain it, because the Lord has not revealed it to them. Men having fanciful views may bring together passages of Scripture and put a human construction on them, but the acceptance of these views will not strengthen the church. Regarding such mysteries, which are too deep for human understanding, silence is golden. {AA 52.1}
Oh, that men might open their minds to know God as he is revealed in his Son! {ST, January 20, 1890}
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Re: Does the Holy Spirit Have a Physical Form?
[Re: APL]
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02/19/14 01:03 PM
02/19/14 01:03 PM
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One thing we do know from the writings of EGW is that the Father has a form that is shrouded by light in such a way that His form can't be seen, at least not by EGW in vision.
We also know that the Son has a glorified human form that can be seen.
So far I haven't found anything concrete about whether or not the Holy Spirit also has a form of His own, however, we do know of two instances where it seems that the Holy Spirit took on a form, if only for a few moments; the form of a dove at the baptism of Jesus Christ, and of tongues of fire on the Day of Pentecost.
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Re: Does the Holy Spirit Have a Physical Form?
[Re: Daryl]
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02/19/14 05:00 PM
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We need to realize that the Holy Spirit, who is as much a person as God is a person, is walking through these grounds. -- Manuscript 66, 1899. (From a talk to the students at the Avondale School.) {Ev 616.5}
The Holy Spirit is a person, for He beareth witness with our spirits that we are the children of God. When this witness is borne, it carries with it its own evidence. At such times we believe and are sure that we are the children of God. . . . {Ev 616.6}
The Holy Spirit has a personality, else He could not bear witness to our spirits and with our spirits that we are the children of God. He must also be a divine person, else He could not search out the secrets which lie hidden in the mind of God. "For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God."--Manuscript 20, 1906. {Ev 617.1}
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Re: Does the Holy Spirit Have a Physical Form?
[Re: Daryl]
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02/19/14 07:08 PM
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One thing we do know from the writings of EGW is that the Father has a form that is shrouded by light in such a way that His form can't be seen, at least not by EGW in vision.
We also know that the Son has a glorified human form that can be seen.
So far I haven't found anything concrete about whether or not the Holy Spirit also has a form of His own, however, we so know of two instances where it seems that the Holy Spirit took on a form, if only for a few moments; the form of a dove at the baptism of Jesus Christ, and of tongues of fire on the Day of Pentecost. I don't know about the form, but what about the location? I believe it is in John 15 where it describes the Holy Spirit is the Father and the Son dwelling in us. And as APL's quote includes reference to John 15, that seems to add support.
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Re: Does the Holy Spirit Have a Physical Form?
[Re: Mountain Man]
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02/19/14 08:40 PM
02/19/14 08:40 PM
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I agree that the Holy Spirit is a person and has a personality as both the Father and the Son are, but does the Holy Spirit have a form as the Father and the Son have? We need to realize that the Holy Spirit, who is as much a person as God is a person, is walking through these grounds. -- Manuscript 66, 1899. (From a talk to the students at the Avondale School.) {Ev 616.5}
The Holy Spirit is a person, for He beareth witness with our spirits that we are the children of God. When this witness is borne, it carries with it its own evidence. At such times we believe and are sure that we are the children of God. . . . {Ev 616.6}
The Holy Spirit has a personality, else He could not bear witness to our spirits and with our spirits that we are the children of God. He must also be a divine person, else He could not search out the secrets which lie hidden in the mind of God. "For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God."--Manuscript 20, 1906. {Ev 617.1}
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Re: Does the Holy Spirit Have a Physical Form?
[Re: Daryl]
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02/19/14 08:46 PM
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What is a person - "as much a person as God is a person"? A "person" is not likely a disembodied spirit.
We know that Christ came in person to reveal God to the world. God is a person and Christ is a person. Christ is spoken of in the Word as "the brightness of His Father's glory, and the express image of His person." {1SAT 343.3}
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Re: Does the Holy Spirit Have a Physical Form?
[Re: Daryl]
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02/19/14 08:55 PM
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God is a spirit; yet He is a personal being, for man was made in His image. {Ed 131.1}
God is a Spirit; yet He is a personal being; for so He has revealed Himself. {FLB 40.2}
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Re: Does the Holy Spirit Have a Physical Form?
[Re: Daryl]
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02/22/14 12:38 AM
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Seems like nobody can say that the Holy Spirit has His own physical form in the same manner that the Father has and the Son has.
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Re: Does the Holy Spirit Have a Physical Form?
[Re: Daryl]
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02/22/14 01:23 PM
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Seems like nobody can say that the Holy Spirit has His own physical form in the same manner that the Father has and the Son has. It is not essential for us to be able to define just what the Holy Spirit is. Christ tells us that the Spirit is the Comforter, "the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father." It is plainly declared regarding the Holy Spirit that, in His work of guiding men into all truth, "He shall not speak of Himself." John 15:26; 16:13. {AA 51.3}
The nature of the Holy Spirit is a mystery. Men cannot explain it, because the Lord has not revealed it to them. Men having fanciful views may bring together passages of Scripture and put a human construction on them, but the acceptance of these views will not strengthen the church. Regarding such mysteries, which are too deep for human understanding, silence is golden. {AA 52.1}
Oh, that men might open their minds to know God as he is revealed in his Son! {ST, January 20, 1890}
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