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Re: Biblical Distinction Between Killing and Murder
[Re: Green Cochoa]
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10/05/14 10:31 PM
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God's love included the most unjust death in the universe, that of His Son, Jesus. Jesus showed us the consequences of sin. He suffered sin's penalty. How as the Godhead involved? Did the Godhead torture Christ? Did the Godhead kill Christ? NO. Sin pays its wage - death.
Oh, that men might open their minds to know God as he is revealed in his Son! {ST, January 20, 1890}
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Re: Biblical Distinction Between Killing and Murder
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10/06/14 10:45 PM
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God's love included the most unjust death in the universe, that of His Son, Jesus. Jesus showed us the consequences of sin. He suffered sin's penalty. How as the Godhead involved? Did the Godhead torture Christ? Did the Godhead kill Christ? NO. Sin pays its wage - death. If sin was the cause of Christ's death, then sin had overpowered Him. No, Christ's death wasn't sin paying Him wages, since He had no sin. Don't you remember the quote about death having no power in Christ's presence? To say that sin killed Jesus as its wages would admit sin's mastery over God.
By God's grace, Arnold
1 John 5:11-13 And this is the testimony, that God gave us eternal life, and this life is in his Son. Whoever has the Son has life; whoever does not have the Son of God does not have life. I write these things to you who believe in the name of the Son of God, that you may know that you have eternal life.
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Re: Biblical Distinction Between Killing and Murder
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10/07/14 03:30 AM
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God's love included the most unjust death in the universe, that of His Son, Jesus. Jesus showed us the consequences of sin. He suffered sin's penalty. How as the Godhead involved? Did the Godhead torture Christ? Did the Godhead kill Christ? NO. Sin pays its wage - death. If sin was the cause of Christ's death, then sin had overpowered Him. No, Christ's death wasn't sin paying Him wages, since He had no sin. Don't you remember the quote about death having no power in Christ's presence? To say that sin killed Jesus as its wages would admit sin's mastery over God. Sin is the cause of all death. Sin killed Christ. Christ had not sin of His own, but He took on the sins of the world. As it is written: 1 Peter 2:24 and He Himself bore our sins in His body on the cross, so that we might die to sin and live to righteousness; for by His wounds you were healed. 2 Corinthians 5:21 He made Him who knew no sin to be sin on our behalf, so that we might become the righteousness of God in Him. Our sins caused Jesus to die a shameful death, that through his sufferings and death we might receive pardon. {AY 67.1} Cease to cherish and excuse sin; for sin caused the death of the Son of God. {GW92 466.2} I t was sin that caused Christ to suffer ignominious death on Calvary. But while we should understand that sin is a terrible thing, yet we should not listen to the voice of our adversary, who says, "You have sinned, and you have no right to claim the promises of God." You should say to the adversary, "It is written, 'If any man sin, we have an advocate with the father, Jesus Christ the righteous' (1 John 2:1)." . . . {OHC 83.3} Keep before the people the cross of Calvary. Show what caused the death of Christ--the transgression of the law. [trangression of the law = sin] Let not sin be cloaked or treated as a matter of little consequence. It is to be presented as guilt against the Son of God. Then point the people to Christ, telling them that immortality comes only through receiving Him as their personal Saviour. {6T 54.1} That are many more. Sin caused the death of Christ.
Oh, that men might open their minds to know God as he is revealed in his Son! {ST, January 20, 1890}
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Re: Biblical Distinction Between Killing and Murder
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10/07/14 03:52 AM
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We can receive of heaven's light only as we are willing to be emptied of self. We can discern the character of God, and accept Christ by faith, only as we consent to the bringing into captivity of every thought to the obedience of Christ. And to all who do this, the Holy Spirit is given without measure. In Christ "dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily. And ye are complete in Him." [Colossians 2:9, 10.] {GW 57.1} -- Ellen White.
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