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Re: Why Does the Human Nature of Christ Matter? [Re: James Peterson] #179497
02/23/16 04:19 AM
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Originally Posted By: James Peterson
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1 Peter 1:12 was quoted. And this verse clearly mentions what "angels desire to look into". So, the Bible doesn't give the exact questions the angels have, but, it does tell us something about the issues the angels wish to look into.

The angels of God love us as much as God does. See Luke 15:10, "Likewise, I say unto you, there is joy in the presence of the angels of God over one sinner that repenteth."

There is simply no need to add to the word of God, or to invent motifs and scenarios or meditate on wild speculations concerning that which has been revealed in the Holy Bible."


But James, who is making wild speculations and adding to God's Word???

Is saying that angels love us as much as God loves us, "wild speculations" and "adding to God's Word"?
The Bible doesn't say that angels love us as much as God loves us.

GOD'S LOVE IS GREATER

God is love (1 John 4:16)-- His love transcends all love.

Angels are not God, and while God's angels do have a genuine love and concern for people, ministering to them and rejoicing when a person accepts Christ, that does not mean they love us as much as God.

We love our children, ministering to them, and seeking their wellbeing, sacrificing and giving of ourselves for their good. Rejoicing when they do good, sorrowing when things aren't so good for them. Yet, our love falls far short of God's love.
Knowing this, gives assurance when we worry and pray for the well being of our children, for we can trust them in God's hands knowing His love is far greater than ours.

A created being's love is not as great as God's love.
God's love is greater than any angel, principality or power.

Romans 8:38 For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come,
8:39 Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.



THE ANGELS

There is plenty of Biblical record (as I quoted earlier) showing that angels are rational beings who were faced with a decision. Some let their doubts lead them to rebel against God, while others pushed doubts aside and took their stand on God's side.

What happened on Calvary showed God's great love -- a love we can all depend on.
It was at Calvary that Satan was utterly discredited and unveiled as the murderer of God Himself!

Satan was/is a master in insinuating doubt and false accusations against God.
Gen. 3 shows his tactics as he throws doubts in Eve's mind --
"Did God really say.....
"It's not really true what God said-- you won't surely die...God is holding you back from becoming a god in your own right.

Even when addressing Christ in the wilderness, satan's strategy was trying to place thoughts of doubt in Christ's mind.
God had just announced "This is my beloved Son, hear ye Him" at the baptism.
Satan comes trying to plant doubt -- "IF you are the Son of God... do you really believe that, then show it by turning that stone into bread...

He took 1/3 of heaven's angels with him -- he did it by planting doubts about God in their minds.

Satan was allowed to show his supposedly better government.
This planet full of sin and rebellion is the result.
By observing the contrast between Satan and his "I will ascend" above God complex, (see Isaiah 14) with Christ who was equal to God but lowered Himself even to the death on a cross to save humanity (Phil. 2) any remaining doubts were forever removed from the angelic host.

There is no question whatsoever in the minds of God's angels anymore having witnessed the great contrast -- they know God is love, and His government is based on His law of love.

Now it's just us humans that have to be brought to that point.
Do we still have doubts that God is love, do we still have nagging thoughts that His law is restricting our advancement?



There is a war going on -- and it's a war for the mind.
That war was fought in heaven (Rev. 12) for the minds of the angels, and is being fought on earth for the minds of human beings.

When our minds grasp the love and righteousness of God, our hearts and actions will follow --



Re: Why Does the Human Nature of Christ Matter? [Re: Daryl] #179520
02/26/16 02:37 AM
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Jude 1:6 "And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day."


"Ignorance is sin, when knowledge can be obtained" (HR, September 1, 1866 par. 3). www.loudcry101.com
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