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Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 [Re: kland] #181470
09/25/16 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted By: kland
"They should allocate credit without apology, "

Is this meaning their recommendation to solve the greatest debt is creating debt with no restrictions?

I don't know what they fully mean. Here's the context where your quote is taken.
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The UN's advice to the emerging nations is to retake control of their destiny and turn the tables on the financial elites. They should impose capital controls, preferential tax treatment for retained earnings, and force fund managers to hold assets for longer. They should allocate credit without apology, and learn a trick or two from the Korea's methods of "financial repression".


So the UN are given advice to the emerging nations (China, Russia, India, Iran, etc...) "to take control of their destiny by turning the tables on the financial elites". The financial elites are this Mystery[Secret] Babylon's 1% elitist group responsible for wrecking the world's economy.

What should the "emerging nations" (China, Russia, India, ...) do :

a -"impose capital controls",
b -"preferential tax treatment for retained earnings"
c -"force fund managers to hold assets for longer".
d -"allocate credit without apology"
e - "and learn a trick or two from the Korea's methods of "financial repression"

I'm not an financial experts. But we do have prophesy and patterns laid by the Lord who has brought 2 Jubilee types in the past :

1. When Israel was freed from Egypt's unjust slavery control system. Egypt nearly got destroyed then. Israel and other nations were freed with the spoils of Egypt.

2. When Old Babylon got destroyed liberating the nation of Judah and other nations. The conquering Kings of the East financed the rebuilding of many nations cities and their temples. The restoration of Judah's Temple and Jerusalem were not the only nation that benefited from the Kings of the Easts Jubilee declaration and financial aid.

More details of these past 2 Jubilee types can be found in Post #181012 in the "Does anyone know how the economy works now?" discussion.

So perhaps your d quote "allocate credit without apology" means that the Kings of the East of today (The Chinese Royal families and other suppressed ancestral European Royal families in conjunction with their [restored] government) will allocate credit to the oppressed captive people to rebuild their countries, industries, businesses and Churches?

That's what I've been hearing that's the intend of the "emerging nations" via their informants for the past 5 years. This intent is the same as Cyrus had after the destruction of Old Babylon. So I see this as what is coming again according to the pattern the Lord laid with the fall of old Babylon.

When you think of it, they (the Kings of the Easts) needs to jumpstart back to life a completely dead economy. A Jubilee is really the only choice & solution available.


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Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 [Re: kland] #181475
09/26/16 02:29 AM
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Originally Posted By: kland
"They should allocate credit without apology, "

Is this meaning their recommendation to solve the greatest debt is creating debt with no restrictions?


Well, in an almost debt only economy there isn't any other option available. Except create cash!

What other function exists to reduce the debt?

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 [Re: Alchemy] #181489
09/29/16 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted By: Alchemy
Originally Posted By: kland
"They should allocate credit without apology, "

Is this meaning their recommendation to solve the greatest debt is creating debt with no restrictions?


Well, in an almost debt only economy there isn't any other option available. Except create cash!

What other function exists to reduce the debt?
Are you asking what other function exists to reduce the debt other than creating more debt?

Or do you not understand what I'm asking? The problem was "the greatest debt". To get rid of debt is not to create more debt. Or do you think the solution to the problem of the greatest debt is just not so great debt? But how did it become "the greatest debt" other than being not so great right before that point?

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 [Re: Elle] #181490
09/29/16 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted By: Elle
That's what I've been hearing that's the intend of the "emerging nations" via their informants for the past 5 years. This intent is the same as Cyrus had after the destruction of Old Babylon. So I see this as what is coming again according to the pattern the Lord laid with the fall of old Babylon.

When you think of it, they (the Kings of the Easts) needs to jumpstart back to life a completely dead economy. A Jubilee is really the only choice & solution available.
But I find in Cyrus nor any other Biblical instance was there any solution of causing Israel to have debt. "Jubilee" is no debt. The rebuilding was given as a gift. Not debt.

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 [Re: Elle] #181495
09/29/16 05:44 PM
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My comment : It would be nice!

Is the death of Peres a sign?

Sep 28, 2016
by Stephen Jones

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Israeli statesman, Shimon Peres, a terrorist in the 1940’s who turned peacemaker in 1993, died today at the age of 93. Here is the news report:

https://www.thestar.com/news/world/2016/09/28/how-shimon-peres-shaped-the-history-of-israel.html

When he became a peacemaker, he was suddenly opposed, often violently, by the war parties in Israeli politics. When he put together a peace treaty with PLO president Yassir Arafat that was signed on September 13, 1993, Christian prophecy teachers proclaimed that this was the start of the Great Tribulation, essentially implying that Peres was the Antichrist for daring to make peace.

Well, the seven years ended in September of 2000, and those same teachers now hope no one will remember what they said. They have instead moved on to other potential antichrists and new dates for the Tribulation.

The article says that Peres means “songbird” in Hebrew, but there is also no mistaking the connection with the final word in the handwriting on the wall in Daniel 5:28.

Last June 11 we saw the Mina, Mina sign, followed by the Tekel sign. I wrote about it here:

http://www.gods-kingdom-ministries.net/daily-weblogs/2016/06-2016/mina-mina-in-orlando/

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The chief of police in Orlando is John Mina.

http://www.cityoforlando.net/police/chief-police/

One of the gay victims in the Pulse nightclub was Eddie, the son of Mina Justice. He texted his mother during the attack just before he was killed.

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/...shooting-terror

A mother of a man killed in the Orlando shootings has revealed her anguish after receiving terrified texts from her son telling her that he was being held hostage in the club’s bathroom.

Mina Justice was sound asleep when she received the first text from her son, Eddie Justice, who was in the gay nightclub Pulse when a gunman opened fire, leaving 50 dead and more than 50 wounded.

What are the odds of seeing Mina, Mina in this news account? Is this a sign that we are on the eve of Babylon’s collapse, as per Daniel 5:25? The biblical term MENE is the Aramaic version of the Hebrew MINA. They both mean “Numbered, or Audited.” The prophecy was that Babylon’s accounts had been “audited” and then found to be bankrupt.

So I take this as a sign of Babylon’s impending collapse.

A few days later, on June 15, I wrote about the TEKEL sign here:

http://www.gods-kingdom-ministries.net/daily-weblogs/2016/06-2016/the-tekel-sign/

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First we saw the Mina, Mina sign at the time of the Orlando shooting. Justice Mina was the mother of one of the victims, and Police Chief Mina is a Justice of the Peace. I explained this “Mina” sign here:

http://www.gods-kingdom-ministries.net/daily-weblogs/2016/06-2016/mina-mina-in-orlando/

Now we see “Tekel banknotes” at the Dundee Design Festival.

https://www.thecourier.co.uk/fp/news/loc...esign-festival/

Perhaps we should watch for the third sign: Peretz, Peres, upharsin (the plural form), or even Paris? (See Daniel 5:25-28.)


Are we seeing the handwriting on the wall for Mystery Babylon? Is Justice coming?

Now, with the death of Peres, we are seeing the PERES sign, which is the last. Daniel 5:28 says “PERES—your kingdom (Babylon) has been divided and given over to the Medes and Persians.”

It will be interesting to see how soon it takes for Babylon to fall apart. October 1 is the end of the fiscal year and is always an important date to watch. So perhaps the death of Peres will give meaning to October 1st, if not earlier.

Keep in mind that this prophetic year began November 13, 2015, the day that Paris was attacked. This entire year seems to have the Paris or Peres label.


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Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 [Re: Elle] #181505
09/30/16 02:30 PM
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So many people looking at oil-slicks in teacups.

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 [Re: Elle] #181511
09/30/16 10:13 PM
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News from the Syrian battlefront
http://www.gods-kingdom-ministries.net/daily-weblogs/2016/09-2016/news-from-the-syrian-battlefront/

Sep 30, 2016


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The US government decided in 2002 to destabilize the Mideast by overthrowing seven countries in five years. This has been reported by General Wesley Clark for more than a decade. Syria was one of those countries slated to be destabilized and broken up into smaller entities ruled by various warlords.

Russia, however, has stood in the way of US ambitions to destroy Syria. This has led us into a very dangerous situation now. The latest ceasefire fell apart when the US covertly bombed the UN aid convoy in order to blame Russia and have an excuse to continue their aid to al Nusra (an al-qaeda group). The US know that the longer they can prolong the Syrian civil war, the more the nation will be destroyed, regardless of who wins in the end.

The US claims that its goal is simply to replace Assad as president of Syria. Their real goal, however, is destabilization, not regime change—unless one defines regime change as replacing the single government with splintering Syria into multiple pieces. We have now reached the place where Russia knows the US is determined to do whatever it takes to arm the opposition and to extend the war indefinitely. So the war of words has reached a point not seen since 1985.

Here is a good 11-minute news video of the situation.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=em-u&v=OJZRvp6w4wc&app=desktop


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Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 [Re: kland] #181549
10/03/16 08:15 AM
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Originally Posted By: kland
Originally Posted By: Alchemy
Originally Posted By: kland
"They should allocate credit without apology, "

Is this meaning their recommendation to solve the greatest debt is creating debt with no restrictions?


Well, in an almost debt only economy there isn't any other option available. Except create cash!

What other function exists to reduce the debt?
Are you asking what other function exists to reduce the debt other than creating more debt?

Or do you not understand what I'm asking? The problem was "the greatest debt". To get rid of debt is not to create more debt. Or do you think the solution to the problem of the greatest debt is just not so great debt? But how did it become "the greatest debt" other than being not so great right before that point?


What!?!

The reason I propose cash is because debt is not the answer. We need more cash and less debt.

Preferably, cash without any debt or interest attached to it.

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 [Re: Elle] #181551
10/03/16 02:41 PM
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"They should allocate credit without apology, "

Is what I've been referring to.

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 [Re: Elle] #181565
10/04/16 08:53 PM
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Babylon.

Come hither; I will shew unto thee the judgment of the great whore that sitteth upon many waters:

Re 17:3 So he carried me away in the spirit into the wilderness: and I saw a woman sit upon a scarlet coloured beast, full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns.

Re 17:5 And upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.

Elle, The great whore, the woman, has Babylon written on her forehead. Elsewhere in Revelation, a woman represents the church, a religious entity.

How does a banking system fit in with that?

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