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Re: Rejection of the Testimonies Foretold, Part 1 [Re: kland] #182596
02/25/17 02:19 AM
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Originally Posted By: kland
When do you say the equinox is this year?


Our calendar is not the Babylonian calendar. Study the historical records to see what Babylonian kings did on NYD and their religious activities.

So if I Miss Babylonian NYD by a day or two, The events will be fulfilled before 1 April 2017. We are in the ball park unless at the airport


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Re: Rejection of the Testimonies Foretold, Part 1 [Re: kland] #182597
02/25/17 02:35 AM
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Originally Posted By: kland
... Did you just say that prophecy in Daniel is tied to the arbitrary choosing of America's inauguration day?

Originally Posted By: His child

No. I said Babylon's inauguration day is the one in prophecy that counts not America's

Originally Posted By: kland

Or did you just say that we can take any prophetic time line and smack it down over top of any arbitrary beginning points of our own choosing?

Originally Posted By: His child

No. I did not say that either. But if you are not following what I did say you will probably imagine all sorts of things that I did not say.

Originally Posted By: kland

That is, you don't like Trump so you can grab things here and there from scripture to "prove" your dislike for him? Why didn't you do the same when Obama started the presidency? Or when the people chose to reelect him?

Originally Posted By: His child
Nothing new under the sun. They said that to me about Bush II and Obama and now you say it about Trump. God puts people in office and IT IS NOT A MATTER OF my liking them or not to point out what the Bible says about them
...


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Re: Rejection of the Testimonies Foretold, Part 1 [Re: Green Cochoa] #182598
02/25/17 02:37 AM
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Originally Posted By: Green Cochoa
There is one significant prophecy being fulfilled here in this thread: Mrs. White prophesied of people time-setting (in vain). She commands us not to do it; but, in a manner like Pilate and Judas, the prophecy will nonetheless be fulfilled by some.


Of which time setting in EGW's writings are you referring?


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Re: Rejection of the Testimonies Foretold, Part 1 [Re: kland] #182599
02/25/17 02:48 AM
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Originally Posted By: kland
Originally Posted By: ProdigalOne
Spring equinox year 2017 is approximately, March/20/10:28 am, Universal Time.
I would agree with that, but not sure His Child is willing to accept that. It conflicts with his prior date of the 29th.

Originally Posted By: Alchemy
I really don't find your interpretation Biblically or historically sound. But, are you saying the time to wait for is 10 March 2017?
See, by setting a date of the 10th, he can then give another date of the 29th. Just like in the last half of the 1800's where Ellen White had to tell people the 2300 days are over, there is no more time prophecy for it. But yet they kept setting dates. And as Green pointed out, they will do it again. Such as His Child is doing.

There are still future time prophecies not fulfilled, but we do not know the dates of them. Such as the 1000 years.


Actually EGW wrote of the 2300 years ending. That date is set in 1844 and is firm But the time repeats as 2300 days in the endtime. And the final 70 weeks of Daniel 9 end on 10 March 2017. As it was in the days of Noah he went into the ark 7+40 days(two distinct periods) followed. Trump was inaugurated 1/20/2017. The 7 days end 1/27/2017. And the 40 days after that end 8 March 2017. That is 2 days before the final 70 weeks end on the eve of Purim.

Taking EGW out of context is making her say things that she does not say about time and time prophecy.


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Re: Rejection of the Testimonies Foretold, Part 1 [Re: Charity] #182622
02/27/17 10:07 PM
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Ellen White wrote the following:
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No Time Prophecy Beyond 1844

I plainly stated at the Jackson camp meeting to these fanatical parties that they were doing the work of the adversary of souls; they were in darkness. They claimed to have great light that probation would close in October, 1884. I there stated in public that the Lord had been pleased to show me that there would be no definite time in the message given of God since 1844.--2SM 73 (1885). {LDE 35.3}

Our position has been one of waiting and watching, with no time-proclamation to intervene between the close of the prophetic periods in 1844 and the time of our Lord's coming.--10MR 270 (1888). {LDE 36.1}

The people will not have another message upon definite time. After this period of time [Revelation 10:4-6], reaching from 1842 to 1844, there can be no definite tracing of the prophetic time. The longest reckoning reaches to the autumn of 1844.--7BC 971 (1900). {LDE 36.2}


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Re: Rejection of the Testimonies Foretold, Part 1 [Re: His child] #182627
02/28/17 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted By: His child
Originally Posted By: kland
When do you say the equinox is this year?


Our calendar is not the Babylonian calendar. Study the historical records to see what Babylonian kings did on NYD and their religious activities.

So if I Miss Babylonian NYD by a day or two, The events will be fulfilled before 1 April 2017. We are in the ball park unless at the airport
I understand Our calendar is not the Babylonian calendar. But I was asking about the equinox. You mentioned that, correct? You are not saying the equinox occurs for Babylon a different time than the U.S., are you? The equinox is a celestial occurrence. No matter what calendar system you are using. So what I'm asking you, today, for the U.S. common calendar system, when is the equinox?

Quite interesting that some people will do all they can to avoid such a simple question, avoiding or refusing for page after page of comments.

Thanks that make you go hmmmmmm.......


Maybe you can are willing to answer a question about what part does the equinox play in the Babylonian calendar's new year?


(Shall we take a poll, will His child avoid this question or answer it?)

Re: Rejection of the Testimonies Foretold, Part 1 [Re: kland] #182641
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Originally Posted By: kland
Originally Posted By: His child
Originally Posted By: kland
When do you say the equinox is this year?


Our calendar is not the Babylonian calendar. Study the historical records to see what Babylonian kings did on NYD and their religious activities.

So if I Miss Babylonian NYD by a day or two, The events will be fulfilled before 1 April 2017. We are in the ball park unless at the airport
I understand Our calendar is not the Babylonian calendar. But I was asking about the equinox. You mentioned that, correct? You are not saying the equinox occurs for Babylon a different time than the U.S., are you? The equinox is a celestial occurrence. No matter what calendar system you are using. So what I'm asking you, today, for the U.S. common calendar system, when is the equinox?

Quite interesting that some people will do all they can to avoid such a simple question, avoiding or refusing for page after page of comments.

Thanks that make you go hmmmmmm.......


Maybe you can are willing to answer a question about what part does the equinox play in the Babylonian calendar's new year?


(Shall we take a poll, will His child avoid this question or answer it?)



Someone posted that the equinox is on 20 March this year. But it was later in the days of ancient Babylon. Like the shortest day of the year was 25 Dec back then and it is around 22 December now.

But as I understand it (and not as you are twisting my words). The Babylonians had a feast on the Spring Equinox and the king was dedicated and when all was said and done the first day of his reign in the new year was 29 March on our Gregorian Calendar. Thus by April 1 New Years Day had past.

So as I understand it President Trump should not be in office past 28 March 2017. But if I am using the wrong Calendar, he could be in office until 19 January 2018.

But as it was in the Days of Noah 8 March marks 47 days since Trump's inauguration.

The literal 490 weeks doubled allotted to America or Apostate Protestantism ends 10 March 2017.

And what would have been New Year's Day in Ancient Babylon is around 29 March on our calendar. So I expect President Obama to be in power by that day whether he is President or the power behind the presidency, I won't know until it happens.

IMHO God's word rightly divided is sure. The problem is not with God's word but with the earthen vessels that put others down who do not share their beliefs and who refuse to objectively look at things that they do not understand (they reject that which they have not studied before hearing the matter and they use infallibility as their standard rather than knowledge increasing while growing in grace).


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Re: Rejection of the Testimonies Foretold, Part 1 [Re: His child] #182646
03/03/17 03:10 AM
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His child wrote;

"So as I understand it President Trump should not be in office past 28 March 2017. But if I am using the wrong Calendar, he could be in office until 19 January 2018. "

That is the first time I have heard of this other calendar. Quite convenient.

Re: Rejection of the Testimonies Foretold, Part 1 [Re: His child] #182647
03/03/17 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted By: His child
The literal 490 weeks doubled allotted to America or Apostate Protestantism ends 10 March 2017.


HC, did you mean to say 70 weeks doubled rather than 490?

Re: Rejection of the Testimonies Foretold, Part 1 [Re: Alchemy] #182649
03/03/17 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted By: Alchemy
His child wrote;

"So as I understand it President Trump should not be in office past 28 March 2017. But if I am using the wrong Calendar, he could be in office until 19 January 2018. "

That is the first time I have heard of this other calendar. Quite convenient.


That is basically my understanding.

Remember that God's people are not infallible. God allows them to have a partial understanding that He matures as they follow what they know and knowledge is increased by God's grace at the time appointed.

Yes Brothers, I did write that. I later clarified (before 1/20/2017) that the Bible is probably using the Babylonian calendar in its reference to Babylon (which was a religious political state) in Revelation. By that Calendar the king ruled from New Year's Day to New Year's Day which was 29 March on our Gregorian calendar. So I expect President Trump to be out of office by 28 March 2017 or President Obama to be the power behind the presidency on 29 March 2017 if he is not actually President again. And I am expecting the war with Iran to most likely begin before 29 March.

And I noted that the 490 weeks of Daniel 9 allotted to Apostate Christendom and America ends 10 March 2017. THAT is all that I understand so far from Bible study. We should see things happening soon to show that I am on the right track.

8 March 2017 is Trump's 47th day in office. As it was in the Days of Noah, he was in the ark 7 days and it rained 40 days after that. So on his 47th day things looked great.

10 March 2017 is the end of the 490 weeks allotted to God's people in the endtime. As the Jews rejected Christ at the stoning of Stephen, apostate Christendom has rejected Jesus by setting aside the marriage covenant for an abominable facsimile.

29 March 2017 is Babylonian New Year's Day. So I will have got prophecy wrong if Obama is not President on that Day or the power behind the president (like Myanmar with a non elected woman telling the president what to do behind the scenes or when Putin became the Prime Minister and let his friend be president of Russia while Putin was the power behind the presidency)

But God's word identifies Obama as America's last President and he makes himself to wax great. He as the king of the North exalts himself and he returns to fight Iran which is the king of the South.

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The only man alive who tweeted 8 times during the 14 months before Pope Benedict retired that Benedict would not be pope after the Spring 2013. The only one who has called the 8 November 2016 election for Obama's third term. Can't happen? Will happen!


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