I posted the source I quoted. If you want other sources google them.
Oh, but you did already find another source, since you handed a copy of the Pope's homily to your class. Since, it seems that you have already verified that the homily is posted on other sites, your request seems rather disingenuous.

"By hearing ye shall hear, and shall not understand; and seeing ye shall see, and shall not perceive". Matthew 13:14

This is not at all surprising. The papacy is adept at subterfuge, with century upon century dedicated to perfecting its craft. On the surface, the Pope's words appear harmless, even kindly; however, past action can be an excellent predictor of future paths.

If your students had more complete knowledge of the Catholic history of Machiavellian political manipulation, treachery, torture, murder, massive persecution of divergent beliefs, defiance of God, pollution of what is Holy, etc. Perhaps they would have come to a different conclusion.

It is all to easy to be taken in by a "friendly" conman. It is a different matter when you have listened to the the testimony of his numerous victims, and you are familiar with his modus operandi.

If you would like some sources for my statements, try The Great Controversy, or if you would like a more graphic, non SDA, source look at Foxe's Book Of Martyrs: I would advise you to read it on an empty stomach.

So, now you resort to ad hominem attacks?
That is truly sad, and usually an indicator of a lack of valid argument.
Dedication is an incredibly knowledgable and wise lady.
Nadi, you could learn a lot, if you were willing.

Your casual conflation of the Jonestown tragedy and Dedication's accurate summation of the Seventh Day Adventist view regarding papal intent, indicates both a callous disregard for the suffering of others and a belief that Seventh Day Adventists are deluded cultists.

This attitude makes me wonder about your motivation for being on this site?
It has become painfully obvious that in recent years the North American educational system has been overrun by far left teachers and professors. Are you one of these, come to troll and mock our faith?

Nadi is in intriguing handle. Does it refer to the Indian term for the mystical yogic energy pathways between (nadi)chakras, or the Vedic astrological practise of reading Sanskrit etched palm leaves?

"For verily I say unto you, That many prophets and righteous men have desired to see those things which ye see, and have not seen them; and to hear those things which ye hear, and have not heard them." Matthew 13:17

By the way Nadi, assuming of course that you are not part of the far left agenda promoting plague that infests the teaching profession, why don't you have your humanities students read Foxe's Book of Martyrs then reevaluate the Pope's wise and loving homily?

ProdigalOne, if I have offended you in any way I am truly sorry. This was not my intent. I am, however, disappointed by the tone of the responses. I do not believe this kind of response will lead to meaningful dialogue.

My point of view differs from yours. This forum allows differing views to be expressed without character attacks.

Nadi, wheren't you asking sources for the text I supersized?

ProdigalOne, maybe you have a hard time following a discussion or there was some level of mis-understanding. I had the impression you were saying that 4 to 5 non-SDA sites had dedication's point of view. So I was looking forward to seeing these sources sites. But maybe I mis-understood also.

Nadi, be easy on our dear brother ProdigalOne.

Let's stay with the subject.

I stick to the premise that the goal of the Vatican is to be the spiritual leader of the world.
Its a "one world religion" not in dissolving the diverse religions, so much as changing them on the inside to the point where they no longer clash with each other and all harmonize in looking to the papacy as the "great shepherd" over all.


Check out the plan as outlined by Jesuit Karl Rahner and his partner Heinrich Fries.

They give eight steps.



They elaborate by saying "The community assumes primacy over the individual." p.13
"The Church becomes the object of faith as ecclesia una, sanct, catholica, et apostolica (the one, holy, catholic, and apostolic Church) The 'I believe in the Church corresponds to the 'I believe in the Holy Spirit.' p21

The church is depicted as a "creature" of the Holy Spirit.

The unity they project can only be achieved if it is a community of faith and not one that worries about doctrines or believe systems or personal agendas. The theme throughout the plan is on the community of faith. In this the church takes precedence over the individual — theology can only be done in and by the community, not by the individuals.

Thesis I rests on the Creeds which express, in Fries words, "the fundamental truths of Christian faith. Furthermore, the Creed draws attention to the fact that faith is not a private matter. . .the public community of faith itself . . .has its support and basis of existence in the Creed." p. 16

Indeed -- the subject of the ten commandments came up in one of the previous posts. The Catholic church does believe in the ten commandments, BUT, since the church claims to be the "creature" of the Holy Spirit, they think they can adjust the ten commandments, having supposedly received that power through the Holy Spirit. Thus the change from Saturday to Sunday as the day "to remember" they claim is the sign of this authority.
And pope John Paul II in his "Dies Domini" (Lord's Day) apostolic letter of May 31, 1998, placed Sunday keeping under the imperative of the ten commandments!
And what is more -- he can quote a lot of nice sounding reasons for Sunday keeping from the traditions of the "church fathers". It's all 'good for the community of faith" for family values, etc.

Note: The Biblical apostles showed that religion does not consist in rites and ceremonies, creeds and theories.
It is not based on tradition and philosophies of men.

The one church to be...
The whole world (almost) will worship at the wrong shrine. Open your eyes and you will see this is being worked towards.