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Re: Who is the Focal Point of the SDA Church? #49559
04/07/05 07:31 PM
04/07/05 07:31 PM
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"Father, if you are willing, take away this cupn of suffering. But do what you want, not what I want."
Luke 22:42


Re: Who is the Focal Point of the SDA Church? #49560
04/07/05 07:38 PM
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On the mountain they saw Jesus and worshiped him, but some of them did not believe it was really Jesus. Then Jesus came to them and said, "All power in heaven and on earth is given to me. So go and make followers of all people in the world. Baptize them in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit. Teach them to obey everything that I have taught you, and I will be with you always, even until the end of this age."
Matthew 28:17 - 20

Any and all power we have is given of God so wecannot save anyone without him. We arte to baptize people in the name of God. We must teach everyhting that Jesus did, therefore, we must have focus on Jesus.

Re: Who is the Focal Point of the SDA Church? #49561
04/07/05 07:41 PM
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You gave the Son power over all people so that the Son could give eternal life to all those you gave him.
John 17:2

All of Jesus's power came from the father.

Re: Who is the Focal Point of the SDA Church? #49562
04/07/05 07:43 PM
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The focal point of the SDA Church should really be two-fold; on Christ in worship and on mankind in ministry.

Re: Who is the Focal Point of the SDA Church? #49563
04/07/05 07:44 PM
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You know about Jesus from Nazareth, that God gave him the Holy Spirit and power. You know how Jesus went everywhere doing good and healing those who were ruled by the devil, because God was with him.
Acts 10:38


Re: Who is the Focal Point of the SDA Church? #49564
04/07/05 07:46 PM
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With God's power working in us, God can do much, much more than anything we can ask or imagine.
Eph. 3:20


Re: Who is the Focal Point of the SDA Church? #49565
04/07/05 07:48 PM
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God will strengthen you with his own great power so that you will not give up when troubles come, but you will be patient.
Col. 1:11


Re: Who is the Focal Point of the SDA Church? #49566
04/07/05 07:49 PM
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The Son reflects the glory of God and shows exactly what God is like. He holds everything together with his powerful word. When the Son made people clean from their sins, he sat down at the right side of God, the Great One in heaven.
Hebrews 1:3


Re: Who is the Focal Point of the SDA Church? #49567
04/08/05 05:16 AM
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Dave, I'm glad you're not denying that the focus of the SDA church, as commissioned by God, is the salvation of lost souls. But, I also happen to agree with Sister White when she wrote seeking and saving lost souls is what draws us closer to Jesus, what causes us to realize our need of study and prayer, more than anything else we can do. Winning people to Jesus is what causes us to love Him more, what causes us to want to win more souls. Not the other way around (i.e., the more we love Him the more we will want to share His love with others). It is soul winning that causes us to love Jesus more.

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If you will go to work as Christ designs that His disciples shall, and win souls for Him, you will feel the need of a deeper experience and a greater knowledge in divine things, and will hunger and thirst after righteousness. You will plead with God, and your faith will be strengthened, and your soul will drink deeper drafts at the well of salvation. Encountering opposition and trials will drive you to the Bible and prayer. You will grow in grace and the knowledge of Christ, and will develop a rich experience. {SC 80.1}

Re: Who is the Focal Point of the SDA Church? #49568
04/08/05 05:30 AM
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But wouldn't we need to focus on God to get to that first point? According to the Bible texts I quoted, we need God to give us the power and ability to witness. How can he impower us if we do not focus on him?

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