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Re: Lesson Study #8 - 1844 Made SIMPLE
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08/20/06 08:32 PM
08/20/06 08:32 PM
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Quote "I haven't yet found anything that a non-Adventist would accept to pinpoint the end of the 2300 days to 1844.” end quote
Asygo,
I would have to disagree with you on this comment. And here is the reason; I have taught this and other time prophecies to many non-Seventh-day Adventist, A Tennessee Temple religion student who accepted it as scriptural fact along with the Sabbath even in the face of his teachers at the university. Also, Church of God, Non-Christians and even to a “Pentecostal couple just a about three weeks ago along with the Sabbath truth. I am even currently teaching Seventh day Adventist who have not heard this message in so many years that they have lost their understanding of it.
From my experience with teaching this scriptural time line (2300) and its starting date of 457 BC, I have never had a problem and I do not see how anyone who believes them to be true would ever have any trouble with teaching them. Again, I would suggest take a look at how the founders taught it and what they wrote and forget what is being printed today for there are many things that are not correct in the new writings.
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Quote “But I don't see how it really matters to us today. Rather than wrestling over the 50-year uncertainty,”
If one does not believe nor understand these prophecies, 2520, 2450 and the 2300 day / year prophecies and what is in them then how does one know where they stand in the events that are talking place around them. Also, I should add that in the 2300-day prophecy, which IN FACT began in 457 BC you will find not only the beginning of Christ’s ministry but his death as well and the rejection of Christ by the Jewish leaders and people but also the stoning of Stephen. One will find as well that pagan / catholic church and her role in history. When one also adds into these prophecies the Book of Revelation, one will find the history of the churches, which fit hand in hand with the 2300-day prophecy. You will also see the rise and fall of nations, and the rise of that abomination the catholic church. Without these prophecies and our scriptural and historical proof of these prophecies one will never know where they stand in Bible prophecy nor could they teach them correctly. Just look it the books “the left behind” trash and how people are taking them as scriptural facts. Look at how they are being led down the road to eternal death from such false teachings!
Moreover, Quote “I prefer to focus on the certainty of judgment and righteousness." end quote
The Seventh day Adventist message is in part the time prophecies as well as “Christ and HIS Righteousness. If we can show where we stand in the time prophecies and that Christ Himself also warned us to know the signs of the times or we will be taken unawares. We can also show the need to know the Son of God as not only our personal saviour but as our brother as well.
The earth is soon to be destroyed and all the wicked. How would one know just how close they truly are to the end of time without the time prophecies? Who would believe just how close we are to the end without a Biblical and Historical understanding of the time prophecies?
As far as the date being off by some years, these are things that take our eyes and time and energy from teaching the truth and warning people of what is about to happen, they are side issues. Also, some would have us believe we can put the “70-week” at the end of the 2300 day prophecy one should understand that that is a Jesuit teaching from around the 1600’s it is called futurism.
Peace and Grace David
The greatest want of the world is the want of men-- men who will not be bought or sold, men who in their inmost souls are true and honest, men who do not fear to call sin by its right name, men whose conscience is as true to duty as the needle to the pole, men who will stand for the right though the heavens fall.
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Re: Lesson Study #8 - 1844 Made SIMPLE
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08/20/06 09:21 PM
08/20/06 09:21 PM
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The 2520 is the oldest time line in the Bible. The founders taught the 2520 time line and it is on the old charts.
It can establish the beginning date of the 2300-day prophecy.
While there is not much to this time line when compared to the 2300-day it is interesting in and of its self. It ends also in 1843/44 along with the 2450 and the 2300-prophecies.
Do you have either the 1843/44 chart of Miller or the1850 chart by Bro. James White?
Peace and Grace David
What is the Bible text on this 2520 prophecy?
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Re: Lesson Study #8 - 1844 Made SIMPLE
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08/20/06 10:01 PM
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It begins with Lev 26, then 2 Chor 33:9,10, Isa 7:8, Deut 7:6, Dan 12:7, Jer 5:1, Jer 15:1-4, Eze 39:8, Eze 21:7 Christian Education by Dr. Southerland pp 120-122 Spalding & Magan pp 1 The 1858 Great Controversy pp 148 Life Incidents by Brother James White pp 307
The 2520 began in 677 BC 2520-607 = 1843
Isa 7:8 gave the prophecy and this date was 742. 65 years later = 677 BC Ephraim was broken and this is the term the ten tribes of Israel, not Judah and Levi were not among them.
The 2450 began in 607 BC The 2300 began in 457 BC The 2520 – 2300 is difference of 220 years. The 2520 began in 677 now subtract the difference from the 2 dates 2520-220 and you have the beginning date for the 2300 time prophecy.
All ended in 1843/44 The old charts have them.
This is very short and leaves much to be desired, however it is a beginning to those who wish to study it out. It is also something that is no longer taught in the church, however it was at one time taught along with the 2300 day prophecy. There is more happening in the 2300 day prophecy than the other two and so it is more exciting to teach.
Peace and Grace David
The greatest want of the world is the want of men-- men who will not be bought or sold, men who in their inmost souls are true and honest, men who do not fear to call sin by its right name, men whose conscience is as true to duty as the needle to the pole, men who will stand for the right though the heavens fall.
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