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Re: Lesson Study #9 - The Triumph of Faith
[Re: Daryl]
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11/27/06 12:14 AM
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why is Isaac referred to as Abraham's "only son"? Maybe Ishmael didn't count because he was ill-conceived.
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1 John 5:11-13 And this is the testimony, that God gave us eternal life, and this life is in his Son. Whoever has the Son has life; whoever does not have the Son of God does not have life. I write these things to you who believe in the name of the Son of God, that you may know that you have eternal life.
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Re: Lesson Study #9 - The Triumph of Faith
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How does one tell a lie through silence? False speaking in any matter, every attempt or purpose to deceive our neighbor, is here included. An intention to deceive is what constitutes falsehood. By a glance of the eye, a motion of the hand, an expression of the countenance, a falsehood may be told as effectually as by words. All intentional overstatement, every hint or insinuation calculated to convey an erroneous or exaggerated impression, even the statement of facts in such a manner as to mislead, is falsehood. This precept forbids every effort to injure our neighbor's reputation by misrepresentation or evil surmising, by slander or tale bearing. Even the intentional suppression of truth, by which injury may result to others, is a violation of the ninth commandment. {PP 309.3} Because of Abraham's suppression of the truth, God said to Abimelech, "Behold, thou art but a dead man." I would say that's an injury. But what I find most interesting is what God said in Gen 20:6: "Yea, I know that thou didst this in the integrity of thy heart; for I also withheld thee from sinning against me: therefore suffered I thee not to touch her." Because Abimelech acted with integrity in the matter, God kept him from sinning. Why doesn't God do this all the time?
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1 John 5:11-13 And this is the testimony, that God gave us eternal life, and this life is in his Son. Whoever has the Son has life; whoever does not have the Son of God does not have life. I write these things to you who believe in the name of the Son of God, that you may know that you have eternal life.
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Re: Lesson Study #9 - The Triumph of Faith
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11/29/06 02:19 AM
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We must consider if a greater injury results from telling the truth or from omitting it. In this case, murder vs adultery. Are we in a position to make this determination? Jesus did not suppress one word of truth, but He uttered it always in love. {SC 12.1} But then Now as they came down from the mountain, He commanded them that they should tell no one the things they had seen, till the Son of Man had risen from the dead. (Mark 9:9)
I fed you with milk and not with solid food; for until now you were not able to receive it, and even now you are still not able; (1 Corinthians 3:2) Full disclosure is not always possible, or advisable. But does that excuse "white lies" now and then?
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1 John 5:11-13 And this is the testimony, that God gave us eternal life, and this life is in his Son. Whoever has the Son has life; whoever does not have the Son of God does not have life. I write these things to you who believe in the name of the Son of God, that you may know that you have eternal life.
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Re: Lesson Study #9 - The Triumph of Faith
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11/29/06 09:41 AM
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R: We must consider if a greater injury results from telling the truth or from omitting it.
A: In this case, murder vs adultery. Are we in a position to make this determination? Of course you misunderstood me. The quote says: "Even the intentional suppression of truth, by which injury may result to others, is a violation of the ninth commandment." {PP 309.3} Notice that the quote does not say, "by which injury may result to oneself," but "by which injury may result to others". So even if Abraham might be murdered, this wouldn’t have been a valid reason for omitting the truth if by this omission injury might result to others. Besides, the omission of truth must not be equivalent to a lie (white or whatever color). Let’s exemplify. Suppose the police is persecuting Christians. If no one is at risk, you don’t need to raise your hand and say: "Hey, I’m a Christian. You must arrest me!" But suppose you are in a group of people and the police arrives and says: "Are there any Christians here?" Keeping silent would be equivalent to saying "No," therefore the omission of truth would be a lie. Or suppose the police says, "We know there is a Christian here. If this Christian doesn’t present himself, everybody here will die." The omission of truth would result in injury to others, therefore the Christian must reveal that he is a Christian, even if this results in injury to himself.
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Re: Lesson Study #9 - The Triumph of Faith
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11/29/06 03:56 PM
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Notice that the quote does not say, "by which injury may result to oneself," but "by which injury may result to others". Actually, that is what I meant. Murder and adultery injure the perpetrator even more than the victim.
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1 John 5:11-13 And this is the testimony, that God gave us eternal life, and this life is in his Son. Whoever has the Son has life; whoever does not have the Son of God does not have life. I write these things to you who believe in the name of the Son of God, that you may know that you have eternal life.
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Re: Lesson Study #9 - The Triumph of Faith
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11/29/06 04:13 PM
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the omission of truth must not be equivalent to a lie (white or whatever color).
Let’s exemplify. Suppose the police is persecuting Christians. If no one is at risk, you don’t need to raise your hand and say: "Hey, I’m a Christian. You must arrest me!" I see what you're talking about, but I'm not sure I really understand the underlying principles. How about Rahab?
By God's grace, Arnold
1 John 5:11-13 And this is the testimony, that God gave us eternal life, and this life is in his Son. Whoever has the Son has life; whoever does not have the Son of God does not have life. I write these things to you who believe in the name of the Son of God, that you may know that you have eternal life.
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