I will try and restate this, hopefully more clearly.

Daryl furnished a list of "Pillars" aligned with "Fundamental Beliefs" My question is: Do we see them being taught in "official SDA publications"?


Though the 28 Fundamental Beliefs & The Pillars of the SDA Church seem to be in tune to each other, I can see why certain "independent ministries" have emerged over the years.

I find that the majority of, "Our Pulpits" as well as, "Our Publishing" seem to be lacking when it comes to presenting the "Pillars of the Faith" as listed above.

Seems to me that the Review is neglecting the past, the pioneer teaching of the "Landmarks of the Faith". Especially in light of some illumination shed in the article that Daryl posted. Did you note the first paragraph, the first sentence (Chap. 3 - The Foundations, Pillars, and Landmarks, Early Workers to Speak.--God has given me light regarding our periodicals {CW 28.1}?) "God has given me light" and "The word given me is:" are used in the first paragraph! To me that is perhaps the most significant part of the whole article.


I can see why "independent ministries" are republishing the works of the "Pioneers" as there is neglect, of this from the SDA publishing house's.

Our Firm Foundation I just checked it out online and looked at the Jan 2007 issue. The "headlines" are:


I have noted that the "dead" usually "speak" in one or two articles per issue, either Ellen or one of the other "Pioneers".

How often do we even see one of this subjects addressed in the Adventist Review
"Or the dead speak"?

Now compare the titles for the articles of the same month of Adventist Review. (I picked both at random).


Looking over the titles for the current issue of the Adventist Review, for just a second I was happy to see the heading, "Church Launch 'New Sanctuary' Movement. I thought oh, I'm glad to see I am wrong, here is an article on the "Sanctuary", then I read the next two words. Sorry the jokes on me!


My only further comment on "independent ministries" is that I can see why "independent ministries" are republishing the works of the "Pioneers," as there appears to be neglect of this from the SDA publishing house's. To discuss the independent ministries further in this thread would be .

Good point Crater, very good points. Why is it that such things happen? I mean why aren't more articles whether they are 100 or 1 year old being published today? Personally I find it inspiring to see the object lessons taught in the sanctuary services which pointed to Christ, the plan of Salvation, forgiveness, the angels surrounding the throne, etc etc. Really wonderful truths and promises. I like some things that independent ministries write, but they are far and between, [EDIT]but will be reading HopeInt articles with a little more open mind i.e. disregarding anyone's bad behavior should not reflect on those which they claim to represent.
Maybe it's time to email the editor at Adventist Review to print an old article from yesteryear, one that speaks powerfully?
God Bless,
Will

MM,
I agree with your analogies, maybe the fundamental beliefs make up different parts of the building, but not what makes up the structural integrity? Does that sound, or would you think it to be correct to describe it as so?
I am just starting to read DA so thanks for that quote. I am hoping to learn a lot, and am trying to get back to the basics of my Faith.
God Bless,
Will

Rosangela,
When you have some time can you expand abit on your post?


I understand what you said, but am thinking that the sanctuary doctrine, three angels message, Spirit of Prophecy, (Is that unique to us?), can be isolated as being unique, but together they paint a portrait that is beautiful and makes a truly unique doctrine pointing to Christ.
What do you think?
God Bless,
Will

Yes, Will, they indeed paint a portrait that makes a truly unique doctrine pointing to Christ. The portrait of Christ’s mission is not complete without the emphasis on His mediatory ministry. Other churches focus mainly on the cross, forgetting that, without Christ’s intercessory ministry, the cross wouldn’t have saved us.

It’s interesting that the pillars were the truths rediscovered by our pioneers, and they are all intertwined. By October 23, 1844, Edson had already reached the conclusion that the sanctuary to be cleansed was the heavenly one. Then the Adventists related the perpetuity of the Law of God and of the Sabbath with the heavenly sanctuary, mainly through the text of Rev. 11:19. The Law and the Sabbath were also related to the third angel’s message, through Rev. 14:12. The Adventists also concluded that on October 22, 1844 Christ had entered the Most Holy Place to begin the cleansing of the heavenly sanctuary, which was understood as comprehending an investigative judgment. But the belief in the unconscious state of the dead was fundamental for their belief in an investigative judgment, since if the dead received their reward at death, there would be no need for an investigative judgment and for a final resurrection. Thus, these intertwined truths formed the core of our distinctive message as a church.

Hi Will,

Did you ever consider the earlier, original books?

• Spiritual Gifts, Vols. 1 - 4.
• Spirit of Prophecy, Vols. 1 - 4.
• Sketches from the Life of Paul.

These smaller, black, hardbound volumes are the fore-runners to the current Conflict Series. They are photofacsimile reprints of the original volumes, which were reasonably priced when bought some years ago from the Adventist Book Center. They may still be available. Spiritual Gifts also contains some Testimonies for the Church and the early health message. Compact, very readable, every bit inspired.

Gordon

Hi Gordonb1,
I have considered it, but I don't see a reason to get all of these editions, when I have the set my mom bought me many many years ago. Currently I have 3 versions of the Great Controvbersy, the little skinny one that is around 100 some odd pages, the thicker black book which I find valuable as it contains footnotes on verses, and the later one in a cream colored binding with a picture of Christ and His Angels on it.The message is still the same.
I did see them at the ABC not too long ago, so they are in circulation.
On a side note, the health message is not a pillar of our faith, many religions, and creeds adopt a health message, so it is not unique to us. I am looking more towards what we believed in.
Thanks for your input.
God Bless,
Will

Thanks for that summary Rosangela, it really captures the essence of our faith as it is in Christ. Not long winded, but short, to the point and packs a punch!
God Bless,
Will

Very important, but not a pillar. Same goes for the nature of Christ? Trinity/Godhead?

Very true asygo.
God Bless,
Will