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Adult Sabbath School
8 hours ago
Covering Mark chapter 4

What is a parable?
A parable is an earthly story with a heavenly meaning, a simple yet powerful story that conveys important moral and spiritual truth.

Why did Jesus use parables?
Jesus used parables in giving instruction, and both revealing and concealing spiritual truths.

The Scripture says, "All these things spake Jesus unto the multitude in parables; . . . that it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophet, saying, I will open My mouth in parables; I will utter things which have been kept secret from the foundation of the world." Matthew 13:34, 35. Natural things were the medium for the spiritual; the things of nature and the life-experience of His hearers were connected with the truths of the written word. Leading thus from the natural to the spiritual kingdom." (COL 19}

Christ had truths He wanted to share, but the people were unprepared to accept or even to understand them. So He taught them in parables. By connecting His teaching with the scenes of life, experience, or nature, He secured their attention and gave them stories they would remember. Afterward, as they looked upon the objects that illustrated His lessons, they remembered what Jesus had said. To minds that were open to the Holy Spirit, the meaning of these parables unfolded more and more. Truths they had found hard to grasp became plain.

Then there were the people who were always following Jesus in order to find fault with Him.
Jesus understood the character of these men, and He presented truth in such a way that they could find nothing that they could take back to the Sanhedrim and use to condemn Him.
With parables He rebuked the hypocrisy and wicked works of those in high positions.
The parables clothed the truth and made it less direct, for had it been spoken in direct language it would have been so cutting, they would not have listened to His words, and would have worked even harder to put an end to His ministry.
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Life Of Christ
18 hours ago
John 6:45 It is written in the prophets, And they shall be all taught of God. Every man therefore that hath heard, and hath learned of the Father, cometh unto me.
6:46 Not that any man hath seen the Father, save he which is of God, he hath seen the Father.
6:47 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me hath everlasting life.

Jesus is explaining that:
Everyone who had been listening to God?s voice would recognize Christ. Those who had been taught by God and learning from Him, would recognize and come to Christ.
No one had ever actually seen the Father. Everything anyone knew about God had been through Christ. It was Christ who spoke to Moses from the burning bush. Christ had led them out of Egypt, He was in the pillar of cloud by day and pillar of fire by night. He was the Rock giving them water. (Ex 13:21, 1 Cor. 10:1-3)

No one has seen the Father, yet, those who have seen and recognized Christ, have seen the Father. (John 14:9-10)
And God, through the Holy Spirit has been working on their minds and hearts drawing them to Christ.

By these words, Jesus tells us that all whom the Father has given him, whether Jews or Gentiles, shall be taught of God; by the Holy Spirit as they see and hear the works of Jesus: Taught, in a way to be drawn and brought to him, and believe in him, and have everlasting life. In the gospel dispensation, every person, whether a Jew or a Gentile, that listens (is taught) by God through the Holy Spirit, will come to Christ in a spiritual way, and trust in him for eternal life and happiness.
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Bible Answers
Yesterday at 03:20 PM
Originally Posted by dedication
Worldly transformation vs Biblical transformation

We can find a lot of information on the internet urging "spiritual transformation" but most is NOT Biblical transformation.
How can we tell the difference?

Biblical transformation focuses on Christ and His Word. It brings the mind into harmony with the things of God and His righteousness.

The worldly transformation focuses on "discovering the inner self, delving deeper into the inner self. "Unveiling layers of self-awareness, leading to a more profound comprehension of your identity." and "Gaining an elevated perspective on life and the surrounding world." "Cultivating an increased awareness of your inner thoughts and their impact on your life," and "challenging old societal norms".

The road of deception always attempts to include some truth. We are to look deep into our hearts at times, but for what are we to look and how are we to change?

Now the Bible does say: ""Examine yourselves as to whether you are in the faith. Test yourselves.
2 Corinthians 13:5 (NKJV)
What are we looking for?
When we prayerfully read scripture, and hear the voice of the Holy Spirit convicting us of sin and leading us to Jesus and His righteousness for transformation, do we make excuses and ignore it leaving us unchanged? Or do we, by faith, check the rebellion that rises in our hearts and minds, and bring it to Jesus, claiming His blood for cleansing and surrendering our lives to Him and His righteousness. Seeking His will, not our own for our lives.

The worldly transformation, on the other hand, elevates our rebellious hearts into the seat of control to transform people into accepting unrighteousness; the rebellious heart becomes the master, Thus the Holy Spirit and His convicting of sin, is pushed aside. Biblical righteousness is challenged as hindering people of reaching higher levels of experience.

Worldly spiritual transformation makes a person totally receptacle to whatever the constant bombardment of media thoughts are being fed into people's minds.
By heavily seeding the environment surrounding what people hear and see, constantly feeding the carnal depravity and sinful desires of the people's hearts and minds, as something supposedly good, and then telling people to "look deep within themselves" for truth, they can "reprogram" society.

The one that shocked my wife was yoga, what took me by surprise was martial arts. Many of them have spiritual paths it takes you that are not apparent on the surface..
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General Discussion
Yesterday at 03:17 PM
Originally Posted by kland
Do you think the Lord said leave any vengeance to him instead of doing it yourself, or do you think the Lord is going to do what the woman wanted to do the the guy?

God will take care of it or we would be striking down people right and left with like the disciples wanted, fire from heaven..
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The Search For Truth
Yesterday at 03:14 PM
There are parts of the cyber infrastructure that we pay no mind to, as long as it does not intrude in our lives. Then they show themselves and we are shocked at the control and intrusion it has, much like the covid mandates..
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General Discussion
Yesterday at 01:59 AM
Originally Posted by kland
Sorry, didn't see this until I finished my other post.
Think CrowdStrike stocks will go down?
Think people will stop using Microsoft?
This is a sad world when you can't do business because the computer is down. Can't track you and they got to do that.
But I expect something else is up.

It seems today's incident of a "bug" in a Microsoft update, was probably a mistake or accident. But then, on the other hand, maybe it was an experiment to see what would happen, how far the ripples would go? I don't know. But it just shows how easy it would be for our whole society to descend into chaos!

But what caught my attention in your comment is the part about tracking. Loosing their ability to track.
Maybe we look too much on the negative side, just think, off the positive result if, in the last crises, the powers that be can suddenly no longer track anyone when God defeats their schemes.
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General Discussion
07/19/24 09:54 PM
Originally Posted by Garywk
I have some more to say on this subject. I was going to say this yesterday but in my absent mindedness I simply forgot.

We will not be stopped when delivering the loud cry. When the HS is poured out we will be as courageous as the martyrs throughout history. .....

Yes! Yes! Yes!
The Loud Cry WILL BE GIVEN!!!
It will not be stopped.

It's true that not a day goes by (if we listen to world news) in which we hear something that makes us cringe and wonder how the world can last much longer. This week it was the assassination attempt, and a computer bug with serious disruptions world wide. Then there are hurricanes, fires, earthquakes, floods. And temperatures of over 100 degrees. AND yes, all the immorality, emotional woes of hurting people, off set by celebrations of evil, wars and destruction, hate and crime.

But none of those messages will save anyone.
Do you know what we need to be longing to hear? The Loud Cry of the Third Angel of Revelation 14 and 18, bringing news of Christ?s righteousness to every nation, tongue and people!

It's the Righteousness of Christ, and His saving power we need to hear! The LOUD CRY will not be stopped, it will go forth in spite of all the lying politicians and their media propaganda; in spite of all the wars and military conflicts, and the agenda's to bring the world into the false worship system; in spite of AI and globalist aims to create trans-humans with robotic nanoparticles; and even in spite of forum moderators banning posters to post on their forums, and in spite of religious movements following the wrong prophetic message. In spite of all that LOUD CRY is going to happen.
The Loud Cry will sound because there will be a people who have given their lives fully over to Christ in faith, trust, and loyal obedience. And they will be eager to tell their friends and neighbors of this life saving, eternal, wonderful Savior and His matchless love and plan.

It's time to warn the world that Jesus reigns, He has the answer to human woe and trouble, and someday soon evil will be done away with forever.

I saw another angel coming down from heaven, having great authority, and the earth was illuminated with his glory? (Revelation 18:1).

?The loud cry of the third angel has already begun in the revelation of the Righteousness of Christ, the sin-pardoning Redeemer. This is the beginning of the light of the angel whose glory shall fill the whole earth. For it is the work of everyone to whom the message of warning has come, to lift up Jesus, to present him to the world as revealed in types, as shadowed in symbols, as manifested in the revelations of the prophets, as unveiled in the lessons given to his disciples and in the wonderful miracles wrought for the sons of men. Search the Scriptures for they are they that testify of him? (Ellen White, Review & Herald, 11/22/1892).

The psalmist says, "They have made void thy law. Therefore I love thy commandments above gold; yea, above fine gold" (Psalm 119:126, 127). When men press close to the side of Jesus, when Christ is abiding in their hearts by faith, their love for the commandments of God grows stronger in proportion to the contempt which the world heaps upon His holy precepts. {2SM 369.2}

The biggest thing that holds back from effectively giving the LOUD CRY
The remnant people of God must be a converted people. The presentation of this message is to result in the conversion and sanctification of souls. We are to feel the power of the Spirit of God in this movement. This is a wonderful definite message; it means everything to the receiver, and it is to be proclaimed with a loud cry. We must have a true, abiding faith that this message will go forth with increasing importance till the close of time. {Testimony Studies on Diet and Food, EGWhite, TSDF 194}
A solemn responsibility rests upon those who know the truth that all their works shall correspond with their faith, and that their lives shall be refined and sanctified, and they be prepared for the work that must rapidly be done in these closing days of the message. They have no time or strength to spend in the indulgence of appetite. The words should come to us now with impelling earnestness. "Repent ye, therefore, and be converted, that their sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord." Acts 3:19. There are many among us who are deficient in spirituality, and who, unless they are wholly converted, will certainly be lost. Can you afford to run the risk? ...
The power of Christ alone can work the transformation in heart and mind that all must experience who would partake with Him of the new life in the kingdom of heaven. "Except a man be born again," the Saviour has said, "he can not see the kingdom of God." John 3:3. {TSDF 194}

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Bible Study
07/18/24 02:17 PM
Consider this: The four pillars?Seven Churches, Seals, Trumpets, and Plagues?hold profound messages. Now, what if we read them in reverse? Though not widely practiced, this unconventional approach can be a powerful tool for understanding and forming meaningful connections. It's a fresh perspective that could unlock new insights.

Since the Seven Churches and Seals are parallel, we should read the Seals before the Churches. The first seal depicts a rider on a white horse conquering with a bow, symbolizing the powerful global spread of the Gospel. It represents the external condition of the church period. Next, we should read about the first church, which symbolizes the Apostolic period of purity and reveals the internal condition of the church.

You should try using the second element. By doing so, you'll actively engage with the text and gain a deeper understanding of its profound messages.

For instance, the second seal represents the external condition of the church during persecution, which aligns with the statement of the second church, "You shall have tribulation ten days: be faithful unto death."

I'm confident that you can complete the task alone this time, and I wish you success. Your understanding and interpretation of the book of Revelation will be enriched by this unconventional method.

How about doing the same with Seven Trumpets and Plagues in reverse order? Start by reading the first plague and then the first trumpet, and continue.

For instance, the first plague was poured upon the earth to punish those who had the mark of the beast and worshipped his image. Now, consider the first trumpet, which states, "hail and fire mingled with blood, and they were cast upon the earth: and the third part of trees was burnt up, and all green grass was burnt up." The first trumpet warns of an impending disaster upon the earth, aiming to destroy the wicked in fire. It's important to remember that the tree and grass symbolize humankind (Dan 4:21-23; Psalm 1:3; Isa. 40:6). Ultimately, the wicked remain, accept the mark of the beast, and worship his image upon the earth.

Remember to use this method when studying the book of Revelation. Blessings!
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Adult Sabbath School
07/17/24 04:42 PM
God hates sin. Why?
But, as we read about His hatred of sin, remember God has a great love for sinners and wants to deliver them from the bondage of sin.

In God's kingdom there is perfect happiness, joy, peace, contentment, honor, nobility of character.
God created a perfect world (Genesis 1) It was very good, beautiful, perfect! He created humans in His own image, to be His friends, His companions, with the potential to enjoy and explore life to its fullness in eternal youth.

What is sin? Sin is flaunting God's law. A law that isn't some arbitrary control by some control system of a tyrant, but a law that is the very essence of happiness and harmony and goodness.

What did this flaunting of God's law do? It deceived the created ones into thinking they could find happiness by flaunting those laws, but under the first "thrill" lay deep pits of emotional trauma, misery, and all manner of hurtful results. Sin ruins happiness, joy, contentment and nobility of character. Sin brought sickness, pain, death, fear, war, destruction we see so rampant in the world.

Why has God allowed sin to do its terrible work ever since created beings chose to flaunt God's law?
There were only two ways to stop sin. 1) stop it by force and immediate extinction of the rebel. But that would remove freedom of choice, and create a kingdom of fear, not love. 2) allow the rebels to set up their supposed "better way" and see the results, while also providing hope and deliverance at great cost, for all who turn to God.

All the truly good things we still enjoy in this world are due to God's hands restraining evil to have full sway. But in the end, that restraining hand will be withdrawn and the world will plunge into TERRIBLE TROUBLE.

"At that time shall Michael stand up, the great Prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, everyone that shall be found written in the book." Daniel 12:1.

At this time (yet future)
The people of God have accomplished their work. ... they have received "the seal of the living God." Then Jesus ceases His intercession in the sanctuary above. He lifts His hands and with a loud voice says, "It is done;" "It is done;" ... He makes the solemn announcement: "He that is unjust, let him be unjust still: and he which is filthy, let him be filthy still: and he that is righteous, let him be righteous still: and he that is holy, let him be holy still." Revelation 22:11. Every case has been decided...

The restraint which has been upon the wicked is removed, and Satan has entire control of the finally impenitent. God's long-suffering has ended. The world has rejected His mercy, despised His love, and trampled upon His law. The wicked have passed the boundary of their probation; the Spirit of God, persistently resisted, has been at last withdrawn. Unsheltered by divine grace, they have no protection from the wicked one. Satan will then plunge the inhabitants of the earth into one great, final trouble. As the angels of God cease to hold in check the fierce winds of human passion, all the elements of strife will be let loose. The whole world will be involved in ruin more terrible than that which came upon Jerusalem of old. {GC 614.1}

Who, according to the quote above, is fully unleashed and uses this unhindered freedom to plunge the world into one great, final trouble of ruin more terrible than what happened in Jerusalem in 70 AD?
The forms of religion will be continued by a people from whom the Spirit of God has been finally withdrawn; and the satanic zeal with which the prince of evil will inspire them for the accomplishment of his malignant designs, will bear the semblance of zeal for God. {GC 615.1}
God's people will be surrounded by enemies who are bent upon their destruction, yet the anguish which they suffer is not a dread of persecution for the truth's sake; they fear that every sin has not been repented of, and that through some fault in themselves they will fail to realize the fulfillment of the Saviour's promise: I "will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world." Revelation 3:10....
the decree issued by the various rulers of Christendom against commandment keepers shall withdraw the protection of government and abandon them to those who desire their destruction,...Many will find refuge in the strongholds of the mountains...but many will be shut in by prison bars, sentenced to be slain, some apparently left to die of starvation in dark and loathsome dungeons. No human ear is open to hear their moans; no human hand is ready to lend them help. {GC 626.1}
But God's people will not be left to perish, God will act.
God's judgments will be visited upon those who are seeking to oppress and destroy His people. His long forbearance with the wicked emboldens men in transgression, but their punishment is nonetheless certain and terrible because it is long delayed. "The Lord shall rise up as in Mount Perazim, He shall be wroth as in the valley of Gibeon, that He may do His work, His strange work; and bring to pass His act, His strange act." Isaiah 28:21. To our merciful God the act of punishment is a strange act. "As I live, saith the Lord God, I have no pleasure in the death of the wicked." Ezekiel 33:11. The Lord is "merciful and gracious, long-suffering, and abundant in goodness and truth, . . . forgiving iniquity and transgression and sin." Yet He will "by no means clear the guilty." "The Lord is slow to anger, and great in power, and will not at all acquit the wicked." Exodus 34:6, 7; Nahum 1:3. By terrible things in righteousness He will vindicate the authority of His downtrodden law. ...The plagues are poured out.....
In that day, multitudes will desire the shelter of God's mercy which they have so long despised. "

Yet even the plagues seem to only drive those who have set themselves above God's commandments into greater determination to rid the earth of God's loyal subjects. A date is set to exterminate them. But God will intervene!
Christ will come in the clouds of glory. The wicked can't stand in that glory. They flee, but they have no shelter, no robe of righteousness, no protection against the fires flashing from the throne.
But those who have accepted Christ do not flee now. They are dressed in Christ's robe of righteousness and are fitted to stand in the fiery glory of sinless beings.

"he end will come more quickly than men expect. The wheat will be gathered and bound in sheaves for the garner of God; the tares will be bound as fagots for the fires of destruction. {GC 630.2}

Those in Christ will be caught up in the clouds, while all the things on earth collapse and cease.

It was sin that completely undid God's perfect creation.

But that's not the end of the story!
God will create the earth and it's atmosphere anew! It will be a beautiful world, in which everything is very good, once again. No more tears or pain or death which were all the result of sin. God will recreate the lost dominion where love, harmony, joy, perfect trust and heavenly adventure, and eternal loving fellowship with our Savior, await all who believe and accept Christ, the Savior of love and life!

Yes, love triumphs!
That is the great future!

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SDA Church Fundamental Beliefs
07/16/24 03:51 AM
Jesus says, John 14:16 And I (ONE) will pray the Father (TW0), and he shall give you another (THREE) Comforter, that he (that third other comforter) may abide with you for ever;

John 14:26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost (that other comforter the third member), whom the Father will send in my name (that OTHER comforter comes in Christ's name), he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.

John 16:13 It shall be when he, the Spirit of truth, (this third member) is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself (this third member does NOT speak about Himself); but whatsoever he shall hear, [that] shall he speak: and he will show you things to come.
John 15:26 When the Comforter (this third person) is come, whom I (Jesus the second person) will send unto you from the Father (the first person), even the Spirit of truth, which proceeds (he comes) from the Father, he (that other comforter the third person) shall testify of me (Jesus the second person):

So yes, John 14:16 says ANOTHER comforter will abide with you forever
And yes, John also says Jesus and the Father will abide with us.

There are three living persons of the heavenly trio; in the name of these three great powers --the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit--those who receive Christ by living faith are baptized, and these powers will co-operate with the obedient subjects of heaven in their efforts to live the new life in Christ.-- Special Testimonies, Series B, No. 7, pp. 62, 63. (1905) {Ev 615.1}

We are to co-operate with the three highest powers in heaven,--the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost, --and these powers will work through us, making us workers together with God.--Special Testimonies, Series B, No. 7, p. 51

They are three, but they are all on the same "wave length" of thought, emotion, purpose, and even on experience. They know each others every thought and experience.
While scientific knowledge about quantum physics is very limited and not fully understood, yet the work on quantum physics helps open understanding that there are other dimensions. Especially quantum entanglement, gives us glimpses as to how three can be ONE to the point where when one is present, all three are present by that one, yet they are three distinct entities'.

In some way quantum entanglement theory is showing that elements that are separated physically from each other, are yet somehow still very much linked and exhibit their same qualities and responses through both time and space, as if they were still together?..

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General Discussion
07/15/24 09:44 PM
While scorched earth may surely come, that is after the fact.

But we should not be promoting the tools of the beast.
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Bible Answers
07/13/24 04:18 PM
All you have to do is check with the Jews, they can tell you...
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General Discussion
07/07/24 08:32 PM
If anything mankind is doing to affect climate change, it is the cutting down of trees, deforesting the earth.

In the last 100 or so years almost a third of the world?s forests have been lost to land cultivated for agriculture and for housing.

I drove through our province and saw fields of WINDMILLS standing on deforested fields.
What would happen, if instead of erecting hundreds of windmills (unsightly and danger to birds, etc. producing only a minimal of needed electricity and not working at all when it's well below zero and everyone needs heat in winter) What would happen, if instead, they would plant millions of trees?

What if farmers, plant a row of trees every mile or so on their fields. Why have all those miles of open fields for the wind to drift over.

Trees, specifically, forests, both regulate local weather patterns and influence the global climate. The protection of the world?s forests that are still standing and the restoration of forests that have been lost, is an important project if the world is serious about preserving the earth.

Yet, deforestation continues at pace, especially in tropical rainforests, which are some of the most effective carbon-storage systems on the planet. Science now tells us that simply protecting our standing forests is not enough; we must also start to restore our lost forests.

Well I have eight tall fir trees on my property and several smaller leave trees. Hope that's helping.

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General Discussion
07/07/24 06:05 PM
From what I read, (which isn't that much in American politics) but it seems to me the Democrat party is in a real bind.
Biden hasn't officially stepped down yet. His dragging feet are causing a real problem.
Time is running out for a new candidate to be placed.
The Democratic National Convention in Chicago, Illinois is August 19-22 and will conclude with the party choosing its nominee for 2024.
But that does not guarantee that whoever is chosen will be supported.
Kamala Harris seems to be a top prospect.
Others place hopes on Michelle Obama, Gavin Newsome from California, and several other so called "popular" governors in various states.
So everything is sort of "up in the air", there.

It does look like there is a strong swing in politics to the right. Not just in the USA but also in Canada and Europe. The last few decades have seen a tremendous assault on many of the core values of these nations. The culture has been changed, to the discomfort and consternation of the generations who remember what "normal" used to be. It's not just religionists, but people who have had enough of the extreme push to the left, and want to return the pendulum back to what they consider "normal".

Prophecy predicts this swing to the right -- a swing that will not stop at the "old normal" of a few decades ago, but will swing way over to the right.

One caution however, as another poster mentioned.
Those political parties all sit at the same table.
There are powers (not just human) who are shaping the world for the last crises, they are capable of reaching their "solution" through either party as they are building both secular and moral platforms from which to control the world and bring about the final crises. The left is just as capable of enforcing Sunday laws on the "secular" platform as is the right side. Though I'm not sure they would advance it to the worship (must worship on Sunday and desecrate the true Sabbath) stage. That last stage is achieved when the "churches" {Protestant churches join with RC) to control the government in order to demand that worship.
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The Search For Truth
07/07/24 03:38 AM
The Sunday law agitation is mounting exponentially.

What's Up Prof -- Almost there #191

Amazing how things are shaping up.
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The Prayer Room
06/29/24 11:43 AM
Praying for your mother and you.
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Maritime 2nd Advent Believers OnLine (formerly Maritime SDA OnLine) is also a self-supporting ministry
and is not part of, or affiliated with, or endorsed by
The General Conference of Seventh-day Adventists headquartered in Silver Spring, Maryland
or any of its subsidiaries.

"And He saith unto them, follow Me, and I will make you fishers of men." Matt. 4:19
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