This comes from The Truth About 'The White Lie'
The Infallibility of Ellen White:

All the mistakes will not cause trouble to one soul, or cause any feet to
stumble, that would not manufacture difficulties from the plainest revealed
truth.

To attempt to prove that all the alleged "errors" in Ellen White's writings are not actually
errors, is not a profitable exercise. If a critic charges her with ten errors, and those ten
are proven not to be errors, the critic will be ready with fifteen further allegations. Each
individual must decide for himself whether the weight of evidence supports or discredits
Ellen White's claim to the prophetic gift.

Because of this statement, I have decided to stop posting at Theology Online.
At least agasinst 2 certain individuals.

Debate is useless, if a person has made up their mind, all the truth in the world will not change it.
Can be found here: http://www.whiteestate.org/issues/whitelie.html#shutdoor

Had to change the title and add the URL.

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Examine me, O LORD, and prove me: try my reins and my heart. Ps.26:2
It is better to trust in the LORD than to put confidence in men.Ps.118:8

[This message has been edited by Gerry Buck (edited May 03, 2001).]

You're referring to Raulf and RonW, that latter who called you a num...........

RonW is extremely intelligent, though his ideas vastly differ from yours. And as for Raulf-- my chest gets tight when I read his zillion postings...

I urge you not to quit posting (as long as you have nuggets of truth to share). If you've run out of ideas, then I understand why you'd begin to post less...

God Bless.

When it is ignored, ridiculed and laughed at, I quit.

Even scripture isn't enough.

I refuse to allow myself to be drawn into a backstreet brawl.
They don't want to discuss, they want to condemn and ridicule all that have the nerve to disagree with them.

As to the 'intelligence' of either of them, the jury is still out.

They post the same inoccuous arguments, even after they are proved wrong.
They are full of hate and avarice.

I had enough of thatr garbage when I was in the military.

I will rest for a space, and maybe I will be back.
Then again, maybe I won't.

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Examine me, O LORD, and prove me: try my reins and my heart. Ps.26:2
It is better to trust in the LORD than to put confidence in men.Ps.118:8

[This message has been edited by Gerry Buck (edited May 04, 2001).]

I've met some very argumentative JWs in my life. Raulf said he is an ex-JW: Maybe he needs to "let go" of that argumentative strategy?

Uhmmm, I don't know why he is so vehement, persistent, judgemental and dogmatic. He says the SDA is a cult and I reckon that that is his "motivation." IMO, when people resort to name calling or egregious judgemental statements, then they lose a lot of credability.

RonW has obviously had some training in the original languages (Hebrew & Greek). He has also read volumes of interpretations of scriptures that have been printed over the last few centuries. Additionally, he has the ability to present his interpretative understanding in written format (be he right or be he wrong). I, on the other hand, have only read the Bible. My perspective is very limited in scope, depth and breadth. That's what I meant when I said he is very intelligent (or should I say educated?).

Yes, the SDA does seem to be vehemently attacked on several forums (not just TOL). But, if they call you a name, I think it is very important that you not take it personally. If you take it personally, then it becomes detrimental to your emotional health. Consider the source of the insult.

Maybe I'm saying the obvious?

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here

Maybe it's because I've had it up to with people like that.

I don't want to argue, I want to learn.
I don't have time to play around, I've already wasted 50 years, I don't want to waste anymore on those types.

I also don't have patience with supposed Christians that denounce scripture and put themselves above it.
That really chaps my cheeks.

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Examine me, O LORD, and prove me: try my reins and my heart. Ps.26:2
It is better to trust in the LORD than to put confidence in men.Ps.118:8

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Posted by Gerry Buck:
Maybe it's because I've had it up to with people like that.

I don't want to argue, I want to learn.

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Did it dawn on you that the battle that is occuring on that forum is not just an earthly battle, but a spiritual one as well?

You guys are swinging spiritual swords at eachother (e.g. you guys are using the Word of God back & forth) and many outside readers are reading that discourse. Many people, including myself, are learning all the time. I learn by seeing the scriptures:
-- in action
-- in discourse
-- in dialogue
-- in dispute
-- interpreted
-- and precept upon precept

Has it dawned on you that thousands of people (who never post anything) are reading the scriptures in action at that forum? God's Word comes to life!!!

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Posted by Gerry Buck:
I don't have time to play around, I've already wasted 50 years, I don't want to waste anymore on those types.

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I respect your thought, but many of us have learned from the discourse you had and others continue to learn.

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Posted by Gerry Buck:
I also don't have patience with supposed Christians that denounce scripture and put themselves above it.

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I've seen quite a bit of it (and certainly not just at TOL).

Out of courtsey, I won't name names, but it seems to me that the harshest critics of SDAs are a select few (1%) SDAs who constantly post hyper-critical comments, essays and links leading to bizarre webpages that fully elucidate their confusing, dogmatic opinions.

I understand your concern about wasting 50 years. My point is that less mature people are learning from your postings of the Word on these forums.

The neat thing about the internet is that thousands of people can see a spiritual battle taking place through the usage of scriptures. It's really amazing.

Have you seen Pickle's postings? That man is phenominal!

I know.
That's the kind of walk I want with God.
I wish I had half his patience, I'd be 4 times the christian I am now.

By way of explanation, I have lost a nephew, 2 real good friends and the mother of another friend.
All in the space of about 2 1/2 months.
We just got word that an aunt of my wife won't make it much past next Mon.
Her uncle (aunt's bro-in-law) has just had a stroke and they don't hold out for much longer for him.

It has been one of those years.

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Examine me, O LORD, and prove me: try my reins and my heart. Ps.26:2
It is better to trust in the LORD than to put confidence in men.Ps.118:8

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I am amazed at the amount of his knowledge. I'm also favorably impressed with his tenaciousness (he just keeps posting & posting ).

He is doing a wonderful job!

I am amazed at his patience.
R--- and r----- are a royal pain.

Neither will listen to scripture nor will they accept any interpretation other than their own.

They remind me of a scripture verse I read not too long ago.

Romans 2:20 An instructor of the foolish, a teacher of babes, which hast the form of knowledge and of the truth in the law.
2 Timothy 3:7 Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.

Unfortunately, they all too often are just that way. Never coming to a knowledge of the truth.
They can't as long as they reject scripture, or, use it to their advantage one time and reject it the next.

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Examine me, O LORD, and prove me: try my reins and my heart. Ps.26:2
It is better to trust in the LORD than to put confidence in men.Ps.118:8

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