In the mackerel thread I brought up dairy products, so here we are with a new thread, where I will proceed to step on some toes
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Lots of SDAs still use dairy from what I can see; especially cheese. It wasn't but a little over 2 years ago that I'd order a Domino's or Pizza Hut pizza once a week, maybe more than once; until I got to reading more about milk, cheese, and other dairy products at Robert Cohen's site:
http://www.notmilk.com R. Cohen's not an SDA, but he thinks the world of Ellen White's health counsels, and has published a book full of quotations from her writings;
God's Nutritionist. I've been getting his daily e-newsletter for almost a year now, and some of the facts are purely frightening. (He quotes respected medical journals; no snake-oil made-up facts)
For example:
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*All* cow's milk contains cow pus. Yep, pus. The stuff inside pimples. Dead bacteria + dead white blood cells.
• Cow's milk can contain bovine fecal matter.
• Milk use is positively correlated with a variety of cancers, osteoporosis, acne, arthritis, obesity, asthma, bad bowel movements, Crohn's disease, tuberculosis, and other diseases too numerous to mention here.
• Cow's milk often contains salmonella, e. coli, listeria, yersinia, mycobacterium paratuberculosis; none of which are completely destroyed by pasteurization. Milk can be pasteurized by heating to 145° F. (62.8° C.) for half an hour or 163° F. (72.8° C.) for 15 seconds. It's not like they boil it. Some bacterial spores survive. As the milk cools, the bacteria begins to grow again, doubling at room temperature every 20 minutes; doubling every thirty hours in the refrigerator while under 40° F. (4.4° C.) cold storage.
And everything that's wrong with milk is more wrong with cheese -- it takes ten pounds of milk to make one pound of cheese. Cheese is concentrated sour milk!
In 1970 the average American ate about 11 pounds of cheese a year. Now that figure is closer to 31 pounds a year. And look at the obesity problem -- cheese is a definite contributing factor. The growth hormones in dairy products are designed to turn 300-pound calves into 1200-pound cows. They do the same type of work on human metabolisms.
Even though EGW said it was OK to drink milk in her day, here's what she said about cheese:
"If milk is used, it should be thoroughly sterilized; with this precaution, there is less danger of contracting disease from its use. Butter is less harmful when eaten on cold bread than when used in cooking; but, as a rule, it is better to dispense with it altogether. Cheese is still more objectionable; it is wholly unfit for food."
{MH 302.1}
"Cheese should never be introduced into the stomach."
{15OT 57.2}
"Wholly unfit for food." "Should never be introduced into the stomach." And that was then! Things are much worse now.
What about ice cream?
"Far too much sugar is ordinarily used in food. Cakes, sweet puddings, pastries, jellies, jams, are active causes of indigestion. Especially harmful are the custards and puddings in which milk, eggs, and sugar are the chief ingredients. The free use of milk and sugar taken together should be avoided."
{MH 301.4}
"Sugar and milk combined are liable to cause fermentation in the stomach, and are thus harmful."
{CTBH 56.4}
{CD 331.2}
Fermentation? That produces alcohol.
A former pastor here once told the story of a man he knew who ate a lot of ice cream. The man ate a big sundae one night, then got pulled over for not driving carefully enough, committing some-such moving violation. The policeman gave the man a breathalyzer test, and it registered alcohol on his breath; though not enough to convict. The milk and sugar in the ice cream had fermented and produced alcohol in his stomach.
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• My personal testimony regarding giving up dairy: I used to catch a cold/cough/sore throat/flu-type bug once or twice a year, every time the weather changed from hot to cold or vice versa. This went on from the time I was a child up until two years ago, like clockwork. For forty years. I gave up dairy in early 2002, and since that time I haven't had a single sore throat, cold, cough, *NOTHING*. Zero. Zip. Nada. And still am constantly around other people who are coughing, sneezing, stopped up, wheezing, due to some bug or another. But I just don't catch them any more; it's like somebody flipped a switch. Amazing.
I used to get stomach ailments for years. Was known for having a 'weak stomach'. Would get sick and throw up for no apparent reason at times. This happened during the years I was drinking & partying, yeah; but it also happened when I gave those things up and went to being a lacto-ovo vegetarian. But since giving up dairy, it hasn't happened once.
I've also lost 15 pounds I needed to lose, and it wasn't really that difficult.
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Ellen White said SDAs will eventually need to give up milk, but that God would reveal it when the time comes:
"I wish to say that when the time comes that it is no longer safe to use milk, cream, butter, and eggs, God will reveal this. No extremes in health reform are to be advocated. The question of using milk and butter and eggs will work out its own problem. At present we have no burden on this line. Let your moderation be known unto all men." -- Letter 37, 1901 (To Dr. and Mrs. Kress, May 29, 1901.)
{12MR 178.01}
{CD 353.3}
That was 103 years ago. What I wonder is, has the time come? Or, is it near? With mad cow disease etc. and all the other things we now know about dairy, is it time for us to say, God wants us to stop using dairy? Or will there be some more blaring signal that none can possibly miss?
She also said we'll be needing to forgo eggs at some point. I still eat egg whites some; not the yolk though. Does anybody have thoughts/information on eggs? (and would that necessitate yet another thread ~ )
[edit - changed topic title from "still got milk?" to "still got dairy?"]
[ June 01, 2004, 11:42 AM: Message edited by: John ]
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