Jayme, where are the visions published that Sister White had? I would be interested in reading them. Could you name the book and page numbers please?

Perhaps this is one?:

"Last Friday morning, just before I awoke, a very impressive scene was presented before me. I seemed to awake from sleep but was not in my home. From the windows I could behold a terrible conflagration. Great balls of fire were falling upon houses, and from these balls fiery arrows were flying in every direction. It was impossible to check the fires that were kindled, and many places were being destroyed. The terror of the people was indescribable. After a time I awoke and found myself at home."
--Letter 278, 1906. {Ev 29.1}

When I first read Sister White's visions about great and immense balls of fire, I thought they might be bombs and rockets fired during the time the 10 horns turn on the leaders of the beast and the whore. See Rev 17:12-17. But then I made the asteroid connection to the trumpets and plagues and now that makes more sense to me.

Later on Marvin Moore wrote his book about it. I was thrilled. On day we got together and compared notes, and even though we disagree on the timing of the asteroid impact (he feels it will happen before probation closes) we both believe this interpretation, as a future fulfillment of the trumpets, is very possible.

Last Day Events, pages 24 and 25
Last Friday morning, just before I awoke, a very impressive scene was presented before me. I seemed to awake from sleep but was not in my home. From the windows I could behold a terrible conflagration. Great balls of fire were falling upon houses, and from these balls fiery arrows were flying in every direction. It was impossible to check the fires that were kindled, and many places were being destroyed. The terror of the people was indescribable. After a time I awoke and found myself at home.--Ev 29 (1906). {LDE 24.3}

I saw an immense ball of fire fall among some beautiful mansions, causing their instant destruction. I heard someone say: "We knew that the judgments of God were coming upon the earth, but we did not know that they would come so soon." Others, with agonized voices, said: "You knew! Why then did you not tell us? We did not know."--9T 28 (1909). {LDE 25.1}

Debbie,

Here are all the quotes I've found in the SOP on this topic. Most are about "balls" of fire; but there is one that mentions a "great ball of fire coming down on the world".

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In the visions of the night a very impressive scene passed before me. I saw an immense ball of fire fall among some beautiful mansions, causing their instant destruction. I heard some one say, "We knew that the judgments of God were coming upon the earth, but we did not know that they would come so soon." Others, with agonized voices, said, "You knew! Why then did you not tell us? We did not know!" On every side I heard similar words of reproach spoken. {ChS 111.3}

In the visions of the night a very impressive scene passed before me. I saw an immense ball of fire fall among some beautiful mansions, causing their instant destruction. I heard someone say, "We knew that the judgments of God were coming upon the earth, but we did not know that they would come so soon." Others, with agonized voices, said, "You knew!" Why then did you not tell us? We did not know." On every side I heard similar words of reproach spoken. {Ev 43.1}
In great distress I awoke.

Last Friday morning, just before I awoke, a very impressive scene was presented before me. I seemed to awake from sleep but was not in my home. From the windows I could behold a terrible conflagration. Great balls of fire were falling upon houses, and from these balls fiery arrows were flying in every direction. It was impossible to check the fires that were kindled, and many places were being destroyed. The terror of the people was indescribable. After a time I awoke and found myself at home.--Ev 29 (1906). {LDE 24.3}
I saw an immense ball of fire fall among some beautiful mansions, causing their instant destruction. I heard someone say: "We knew that the judgments of God were coming upon the earth, but we did not know that they would come so soon." Others, with agonized voices, said: "You knew! Why then did you not tell us? We did not know."--9T 28 (1909). {LDE 25.1}

Not long ago a very impressive scene passed before me. I saw an immense ball of fire falling among some beautiful mansions, causing their instant destruction. I heard someone say, "We knew that the judgments of God were coming upon the earth, but we did not know that they would come so soon." Others said, "You knew? Why then did you not tell us? We did not know." On every side I heard such words spoken. . . . {Mar 25.2}

In the visions of the night a very impressive scene passed before me. I saw an immense ball of fire fall among some beautiful mansions, causing their instant destruction. I heard someone say: "We knew that the judgments of God were coming upon the earth, but we did not know that they would come so soon." Others, with agonized voices, said: "You knew! Why then did you not tell us? We did not know." On every side I heard similar words of reproach spoken. {PM 283.4}
In great distress I awoke.

In the visions of the night a very impressive scene passed before me. I saw an immense ball of fire fall among some beautiful mansions, causing their instant destruction. I heard someone say: "We knew that the judgments of God were coming upon the earth, but we did not know that they would come so soon." Others, with agonized voices, said: "You knew! Why then did you not tell us? We did not know." On every side I heard similar words of reproach spoken. {9T 28.1}
In great distress I awoke.

Not long ago a very impressive scene passed before me. I saw an immense ball of fire falling among some beautiful mansions, causing their instant destruction. I heard someone say, "We knew that the judgments of God were coming upon the earth, but we did not know that they would come so soon." Others said, "You knew? Why then did you not tell us? We did not know." On every side I heard such words spoken. . . . {WM 136.3}

Not long ago a very impressive scene passed before me. I saw an immense ball of fire falling among some beautiful mansions, causing their instant destruction. I heard some one say, "We knew that the judgments of God were coming upon the earth, but we did not know that they would come so soon." Others said, "You knew? Why then did you not tell us. We did not know." On every side I heard such words spoken. {RH, November 24, 1904 par. 1}
In great distress I awoke.

Last night a scene was presented before me. I may never feel free to reveal all of it, but I will reveal a little. {RC 243.2}
It seemed that an immense ball of fire came down upon the world, and crushed large houses. From place to place rose the cry, "The Lord has come! The Lord has come!" Many were unprepared to meet Him, but a few were saying, "Praise the Lord!" {RC 243.3}
"Why are you praising the Lord?" inquired those upon whom was coming sudden destruction. {RC 243.4}
"Because we now see what we have been looking for." {RC 243.5}
"If you believed that these things were coming, why did you not tell us?" was the terrible response. "We did not know about these things. Why did you leave us in ignorance? Again and again you have seen us; why did you not become acquainted with us, and tell us of the judgment to come, and that we must serve God, lest we perish? Now we are lost!" {RC 243.6}

Last Friday morning, just before I awoke, a very impressive scene was presented before me. I seemed to awake from sleep, but was not in my home. From the windows I could behold a terrible conflagration. Great balls of fire were falling upon houses, and from these balls fiery arrows were flying in every direction. It was impossible to check the fires that were kindled, and many places were being destroyed. The terror of the people was indescribable. --Evangelism, p. 29. (1906) {CL 8.5}

Last Friday morning, just before I awoke, a very impressive scene was presented before me. I seemed to awake from sleep but was not in my home. From the windows I could behold a terrible conflagration. Great balls of fire were falling upon houses, and from these balls fiery arrows were flying in every direction. It was impossible to check the fires that were kindled, and many places were being destroyed. The terror of the people was indescribable. After a time I awoke and found myself at home.--Letter 278, 1906. {Ev 29.1}

Last Friday morning, just before I awoke, a very impressive scene was presented before me. I seemed to awake from sleep but was not in my home. From the windows I could behold a terrible conflagration. Great balls of fire were falling upon houses, and from these balls fiery arrows were flying in every direction. It was impossible to check the fires that were kindled, and many places were being destroyed. The terror of the people was indescribable. {Mar 25.5}
Strictly will the cities of the nations be dealt with, and yet they will not be visited in the extreme of God's indignation, because some souls will yet break away from the delusions of the enemy, and will repent and be converted, while the mass will be treasuring up wrath against the day of wrath. {Mar 25.6}

Last Friday morning [August 24, 1906], just before I awoke, a very impressive scene was presented before me. I seemed to awake from sleep but was not in my home. From the windows I could behold a terrible conflagration. Great balls of fire were falling upon houses, and from these balls fiery arrows were flying in every direction. It was impossible to check the fires that were kindled, and many places were being destroyed. The terror of the people was indescribable. {Mar 210.4}
Fearful sights of a supernatural character will soon be revealed in the heavens, in token of the power of miracle-working demons. The spirits of devils will go forth to the kings of the earth and to the whole world, to fasten them in deception, and urge them on to unite with Satan in his last struggle against the government of heaven. By these agencies, rulers and subjects will be alike deceived. Persons will arise pretending to be Christ Himself, and claiming the title and worship which belong to the world's Redeemer. They will perform wonderful miracles of healing and will profess to have revelations from heaven contradicting the testimony of the Scriptures. {Mar 210.5}

Last Friday morning, just before I awoke, a very impressive scene was presented before me. I seemed to awake from sleep but was not in my home. From the windows I could behold a terrible conflagration. Great balls of fire were falling upon houses, and from these balls fiery arrows were flying in every direction. It was impossible to check the fires that were kindled, and many places were being destroyed. The terror of the people was indescribable. After a time I awoke and found myself at home.-- Letter 278, 1906. {WM 136.6}

In the night I was, I thought, in a room but not in my own house. I was in a city, where I knew not, and I heard expression after expression. I rose up quickly in bed, and saw from my window large balls of fire. Jetting out were sparks, in the form of arrows, and buildings were being consumed, and in a very few minutes the entire block of buildings was falling and the screeching and mournful groans came distinctly to my ears. I cried out, in my raised position, to learn what was happening: Where am I? And where are our family circle? Then I awoke. But I could not tell where I was for I was in another place than home. I said, Oh Lord, where am I and what shall I do? It was a voice that spoke, "Be not afraid. Nothing shall harm you." {11MR 361.1}
I was instructed that destruction hath gone forth upon cities. The word of the Lord will be fulfilled. Isaiah 29:19-24 was repeated. I dared not move, not knowing where I was. I cried unto the Lord, What does it mean? These representations of destruction were repeated. Where am I? "In scenes I have represented that which will be; but warn My people to cease from putting their trust in men who are not obedient to my warnings and who despise My reproof, for the day of the Lord is right upon the world when evidence shall be made sure. Those who have followed the voices that would turn things upside down will themselves be turned where they cannot see, but will be as blind men. {11MR 361.2}
These words were given me from Isaiah 30: "Now go, write it before them in a table, and note it in a book, that it may be for the time to come for ever and ever: That this is a rebellious people, lying children, children that will not hear the law of the Lord: Which say to the seers, See not; and to the prophets, Prophesy not unto us right things, speak unto us smooth things, prophesy deceits." [Isaiah 30:8-15 quoted.] . . . . {11MR 362.1}
I was instructed that light had been given me and that I had written under special light the Lord had imparted.--Ms. 126, 1906. (Diary, August 23, 27, 1906.)

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It is very interesting to me that according to the vision, the immense ball of fire falling on the world is something "we have been looking for."

I highly recommend Marvin Moore's book.

Thank you so much for all those quotes jayme. I find the information here about asteroids interesting and something to think about. However, Mike, I am concerned about putting in the future the fulfillment of the 7 trumpets. We are living between the sixth and seventh trumpet right now. These cannot be put into the future.

I believe Mrs. White makes it clear also. 2 SM 102 says:

"Some will take the truth applicable to their time, and place it in the future. Events in the train of prophecy that had their fulfillment away in the past are made future, and thus by these theories the faith of some is undermined."

There is a book called "Keppers of the Faith" by Colin and Russell Standish. In it is a chapter called "Futurism" in which they show where this comes from and where it leads us. Here is a quote by them:

"With the increasing interfacing with evangelicals and with the increase in Satanic deceptions at the end of time, it is to be expected that more and more futuristic interpretations will be presented. Not only have these come in relationship to Daniel 7,8, and 9, but also a strong emphasis on futurism has been picked up in the areas of the seven seals and the seven trumpets, and other areas of Revelation, including Revelation 13:5, where the voice of inspiration declares that the forty and two months referred to here specifically relates to the 1260 years of papal persecution ending in 1798. (See GC 54)."

Keepers of the Faith, copyright 1988 by Hartland Publications, Rapidan, VA

I have no doubt that asteroids may hit the earth and these things happen but not in relation to the 7 trumpets, rather in relation to Matt. 24.

Mike,

I read your post on the affect of asteroids upon this earth...past and future. It certainly is a sobering thought to realize how destructive these natural missiles from outer space can be upon the earth.

I am comforted by the realization, though, that the Biblical prophetic events depicting the falling of asteroids upon the earth will be taking place "after" the Second Coming when all of the saints have been redeemed from this earth.

We have nothing to fear from these predicted catastrophes as long as we are ready to meet our Lord each and every moment of our lives.

Debbie, I agree with you that if we are between the 6th and 7th seals, and if the 7th trumpet is still in the process of fulfilling, then a future application of the seals and trumpets is not possible. In response to this problem please read the study presented at the MSDAOL link below. In this study there is a quote by Sister White that clearly teaches the trumpets will be fulfilled in the future together with the plagues:

http://www.maritime-sda-online.org/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=82;t=000021

Bob, your pretrib ideas do not belong on this thread. Please post them for further study on the appropriate thread. They are worth studying there, and they will receive due attention. Thank you.

MIke,

In your initial post you described how if an asteroid were to hit the Pacific Ocean that it would produce a wave several hundred feet in height. If that were to happen, then any island within this ocean or land mass along the Pacific Rim would experience untold devastation.

I currently live on one of the islands in the Pacific Ocean. If one of those tidal waves hit my island, I do not expect that any living being, righteous or wicked, would be able to survive its desolation.

Now we all agree that these natural disasters are all future, but you will be very hard-pressed to demonstrate from the Bible how God's saints will be present on this earth during the time of these disasters.

Bob, in the same way God was able protect Noah and his family during the world wide flood, and in the same way He will protect the righteous during the forthcoming world wide conflagration - so too God will be able to protect the righteous islanders during a Tsunami caused by an asteroid impact.

I too agree that God will protect "His People" from suffering the effects of these terrible devastating natural castastrophes......He will take them off of this earth before any of these events take place.