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Re: What happens next in the coronavirus strategy [Re: Rick H] #192779
07/23/20 01:16 AM
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The "reset" Elle was talking about had some truth.
Though I didn't agree with all her interpretations of it
We are definitely in a big thrust to bring in a "reset" .

Sadly everyone is going paranoid again.

Strange isn't it -- how there was this big covid news and lockdowns for a several weeks in the spring.
Then suddenly news on covid -19 disappeared, and all we heard was "black lives matter" with all its protests and looting, defacing and destruction of property and statues, and even lives etc. etc. People were actually being ENCOURAGED to go out in huge gatherings, chanting and shouting, with little social distancing.

Oh, surprise -- then we got more covid cases.
Was the whole thing planned because the numbers weren't high enough and they had to get the people out in huge masses to get more infections, so they could lock down the nation again?

Re: What happens next in the coronavirus strategy [Re: Rick H] #192780
07/23/20 02:21 AM
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Doctors and nurses didn't wear masks in normal situations. I've never had a doctor wear a mask when I went for an appointment. Nor did the nurses or the doctor wear a mask all those weeks I was visiting in the hospital (that was before covid-19).
Yes, doctors and nurses do wear masks in the operating room and other serious situations, there are good reasons for that. There is a time and place when a mask is good.

However, masking everyone in normal activities and situations is NOT normal at all.
Basically now the mask becomes a SYMBOL.

Masks have played their role all through history. Ritual mask wearing basically puts the wearer under some sort of control to the power the mask supposedly represents whether it was in theatrical drama, or spiritualistic dances.
Those masks seen everywhere now are symbolic. They do not hinder the passage of viruses. This is printed right on some of the a boxes (at least it was for years). And strangely, just four months ago, the WHO and the scientists all confirmed masks do not protect the wearer from the virus.

But recently we have a complete 180 decree turn around. Everyone is supposed put on a mask!!!
Why? The symbol of the mask certainly is powerful ? a symbol of subjugation.

A person wearing a mask is a strange sight that affects us visually.
It instantly sends a message that invokes fear of illness and death.
It makes the disease BIG and ever present (even if there isn't a case anywhere in the area)
Each masked face keeps the message alive in our minds, that we should be afraid, and that we need outside forces to save us, and thus blindly follow thinking we'll all die if we don't.

The mask takes away a little of one's personality and identity. it dehumanizes. It hammers in the message "Be afraid of all people" "STOP all social life" The government will come up with something to save you.
The mask keeps the people in subjugation to the powers seeking control.

Just like Ezekiel 12-- the mask was symbol of blindness and a symbol of coming under complete subjugation to Babylon.

Re: What happens next in the coronavirus strategy [Re: Rick H] #192787
07/24/20 08:57 AM
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Did anyone imagine they would go this far, so soon?

"BROWARD COUNTY EMERGENCY ORDER MANDATES PEOPLE WEAR ?FACIAL COVERINGS? INSIDE THEIR OWN HOMES"

https://dateway.net/broward-county-...overings-inside-their-own-homes-dateway/


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Behold, I have graven thee upon the palms of my hands..."

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Re: What happens next in the coronavirus strategy [Re: dedication] #192790
07/24/20 12:49 PM
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I sent your reply to me to my pastor. This is what he responded:

"Personally I don?t know which scientists, doctors and experts to believe, but I don?t see how obeying the law to wear a mask contradicts the Bible ( like the mark of the beast will).
In regards to Ezekiel, would the forum leaders also look at Ezekiel 4:4 and determine that we must not lay on our left side lest we bring a curse on God?s people? Ridiculous.
Have doctors, nurses, EMTs etc been forecasting captivity all these decades by wearing masks? Besides, Ez 12:4 says it would cover the eyes like a hood (which doesn?t matter to me, just pointing out they?re not even being consistent with their argument). Several times prophets or others did physical things to symbolize a future event. But it doesn?t mean that from then on no one must do that action (like laying on your left side- referenced earlier).
This line of thinking seems very much focused on an outward physical sign, like people who believe the mark is a bar code, tatoo, or chip that if forced on you, you are lost. Different issue I know, but same principle.
The mask (to me) falls under Romans 13 and our requirement by the Lord to obey our government, even if they?re wrong. As long as Bible doesn?t condemn it. "


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Re: What happens next in the coronavirus strategy [Re: Rick H] #192794
07/24/20 07:47 PM
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Theophilus,
Except for the idea of following any local laws, maybe a good reason not to wear it is because it's pointless?

What if the government said everyone had to wear a yellow star to protect everyone, because "it's all we've got"?

Re: What happens next in the coronavirus strategy [Re: Rick H] #192797
07/24/20 10:45 PM
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Why is it pointless? A yellow star is a far cry from a mask.That's actually a funny comparison. The yellow star was for one segment of the pop, not everyone.


Medical personnel wear them for a reason. It doesn't hurt us to do so.
What does your pastor say? Have you discussed your musings with him?


I am not worthy of the least of all the mercies, and of all the truth, which Thou hast shewed unto Thy servant;...
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Re: What happens next in the coronavirus strategy [Re: Rick H] #192814
07/28/20 01:06 PM
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You were referring to marking a certain segment of the population.
I was comparing the pointlessness of wearing a star to protect people from harm to the wearing of a mask to protect people from harm. Both are pointless. There has been presented no scientific paper which shows masks prevent the transmission of covid19. Would you agree that wearing a yellow star in the past did not protect the people from harm?

My pastor thinks wearing a mask is silly. He only wears it when others force him to.

When one forces others to do things they want them to do, what is that a characteristic of?

Re: What happens next in the coronavirus strategy [Re: Rick H] #192817
07/29/20 09:48 AM
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I was talking to someone in the know in the health department of the Nova Scotia government and they said that the government is planning on the virus having a second wave beginning in September. That is why the mask law is now being put into effect.
A friend of men in Puerto Rico says that the forced wearing of masks there has made things worse as people do not wear them properly or wear the wrong type and it gives them a false sense of security.
I read this quote yesterday and after considering it thought maybe the best way to deal with the virus is to ban the sale of meat! Don't think that will ever happen. Interesting thought though for those to consider when trying to decide on the best way to deal with this pandemic.

"Feeding on flesh, the juices and fluids of what you eat pass into the circulation of your blood, and, as we are composed of what we eat, we become animalized; thus a feverish condition is created, because the animals are diseased, and by partaking of their flesh we plant the seeds of disease in our own tissue and blood. Then when exposed to the changes in a malarious atmosphere, these are more sensibly felt, also when we are exposed to prevailing epidemics and contagious diseases the system is not in condition to resist the disease." PH031

Re: What happens next in the coronavirus strategy [Re: Rick H] #192820
07/29/20 08:07 PM
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Diet does play a huge role in this!!!
The best defense against this disease is a strong immune system.
A diet high in plant based foods -- fruits, vegetables, whole grains -- rich in vitamins and other nutrients, will boost the immune system. Things like meat, dairy products, fried foods, sugary foods, highly processed foods produce inflammation in the system, weaken the immune system and cause people to gain weight -- all conditions that make people more susceptible to the disease.

Re: What happens next in the coronavirus strategy [Re: Rick H] #192826
08/01/20 12:29 PM
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