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Re: Alpha and Omega of Apostasy.... [Re: Colin] #104309
11/08/08 12:05 AM
11/08/08 12:05 AM
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I think I would agree with what you wrote, except I would just say, "obedience is included in our salvation." (without the "perfect" in front of it). I don't really disagree with the word "perfect," but it has baggage to it and people often misunderstand it.

Also in the first paragraph, I suspect that the words you wrote would mean something different to you than to me, but I agree with them.


Those who wait for the Bridegroom's coming are to say to the people, "Behold your God." The last rays of merciful light, the last message of mercy to be given to the world, is a revelation of His character of love.
Re: Alpha and Omega of Apostasy.... [Re: Rick H] #104322
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Have not been around for some time and was reading this topic.

I would have do my old research, but I have always felt that it was the nature of Christ that would be the Omega issue.

I know this topic is someplace else on the forum and do not know if it has been posted on of late, but for me when we look at the Alpha we see it was directed at the nature of God and the Omega would be directed at the nature of Christ.

It comes down to the very true of perfection and can we be like Jesus in our own lifetime before the coming.

Re: Alpha and Omega of Apostasy.... [Re: Rick H] #104332
11/08/08 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted By: Richard
Graduated in 82', the dean was happy to see me go... dunno


Al and I were there about the same time, things were really in a turmoil then. Do you remember seeing the paper posted on Lorenzo Grant's door the day that Ford had his credentials taken away, that said, "A Sad Day In Adventist History"?


Christ is waiting with longing desire for the manifestation of Himself in His church. When the character of Christ shall be perfectly reproduced in His people, then He will come to claim them as His own. {COL 69}

Re: Alpha and Omega of Apostasy.... [Re: liane] #104341
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Originally Posted By: liane
Have not been around for some time and was reading this topic.

I would have do my old research, but I have always felt that it was the nature of Christ that would be the Omega issue.

I know this topic is someplace else on the forum and do not know if it has been posted on of late, but for me when we look at the Alpha we see it was directed at the nature of God and the Omega would be directed at the nature of Christ.

It comes down to the very true of perfection and can we be like Jesus in our own lifetime before the coming.
That's just one point we used to be clear on which we no longer are clear about...the human nature of Christ has gone quiet in scholarly publications (after 50 years!), and now it's the trinity which is being addressed by scholars...! smile grin

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