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Re: Your health is under attack!
[Re: Green Cochoa]
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09/18/09 07:23 AM
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Well I didn't know that either, but not many people have the tubes in their home. My husband has the tubes in his shop though. He probably knows there is mercury in them though.
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Re: Your health is under attack!
[Re: Will]
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09/18/09 12:10 PM
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Personally, the first thought for me was to get out of the city, and after much prayer and life changing circumstances, I am out of the big city, its more like a spread out population here, but still small town. I love it.. Thats the first part of getting healthy -> Lifestyle change, roll that in with adjustments to diet, education, God given Wisdom, and patience. God Bless, -Will Not many are willing to do that. We have tried to encourage people to leave the city or at least to move to the outskirts. Some comments made are, it's scary, what about the lack of convenience, it's not close, we are in the city for our kids' benefit. Sad really. Glad to hear you made the move. Things will be better for you as the world winds down. If you haven't already, start learning how to garden. People will raid anyone with food supplies, but something tells me that those who are into chips and donuts, most likely won't raid someone's beets and cauliflower.
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Re: Your health is under attack!
[Re: crater]
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09/18/09 12:26 PM
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One caveat of the low-energy bulb is that it contains mercury. Even so, CFLs are still your best bet, according to EPA Energy Star program director Wendy Reed. Coal-fired plants are the biggest emitters of mercury. Using CFL bulbs means you draw less power from the grid, which means less coal is burned for electricity. Because of the mercury, take precautions when disposing of these CFL bulbs. Rather than throwing them in your household trash or curbside recycling bin, take them to a hazardous waste collection or other special facility. Those quotes really irritate me. The whole idea of CFLs is to reduce the supposed greenhouse gas. If we are to be moving to less carbon emitting things, then what relation of coal-fired plants have to do with justifying intentionally spreading toxic substances throughout the whole nation? For how can it be justified if coal-fired plants no longer exist? Makes one wonder if there's a conspiracy for those with a problem of disposal of mercury to inject it in our bodies, put it in our homes. Otherwise, why a contorted logic statement such as that? And, I hear the mercury is not enough to worry about, but you should still always go to extra effort and use energy to transport it to a special facility. Something doesn't make sense here. They never speak about how much is actually saved in comparison to other things. For instance, one idea comes to mind is using an old-fashioned land line versus a cellphone with it's manufacture, batteries, charger, and its recharging. Then there's setting your thermostat a degree (or more) different. Or how about eliminating your TV. There's a whole list of things that would save much more energy than light bulbs.
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Re: Your health is under attack!
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09/18/09 03:13 PM
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The european union has passed a law making new production and import of the old lightbulbs illegal. The Swedish energy department says the difference is expected to be 2 TWh, or 10 percent of the total household energy consumtion. If each lamp is changed after it burns out, no aditional energy will be spent for obtaining a new one outside of what would have been the case either way. And as for energy useage for getting to the recykling station, you go there regularely with that waste which falls outside of daily consumer goods waste, right?
And if you don't like CFL lamps, try LED instead. Then youll save even more on your electricity bill aswell.
Galatians 2 21 I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain.
It is so hazardous to take here a little and there a little. If you put the right little's together you can make the bible teach anything you wish. //Graham Maxwell
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Re: Your health is under attack!
[Re: kland]
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09/18/09 03:31 PM
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Those quotes really irritate me. The whole idea of CFLs is to reduce the supposed greenhouse gas. If we are to be moving to less carbon emitting things, then what relation of coal-fired plants have to do with justifying intentionally spreading toxic substances throughout the whole nation? For how can it be justified if coal-fired plants no longer exist?
Makes one wonder if there's a conspiracy for those with a problem of disposal of mercury to inject it in our bodies, put it in our homes. Otherwise, why a contorted logic statement such as that?
And, I hear the mercury is not enough to worry about, but you should still always go to extra effort and use energy to transport it to a special facility. Something doesn't make sense here.
They never speak about how much is actually saved in comparison to other things. For instance, one idea comes to mind is using an old-fashioned land line versus a cellphone with it's manufacture, batteries, charger, and its recharging. Then there's setting your thermostat a degree (or more) different. Or how about eliminating your TV. There's a whole list of things that would save much more energy than light bulbs. Just one observation here... If you use mercury-containing light bulbs to reduce the amount of electricity you use--surprise! It comes out about even on the mercury pollution. That's assuming that the bulbs will end up in a landfill, broken, and spilling their contents into the environment (which is what happens most of the time). Relatively few people around the world actually recycle fluorescent bulbs to the proper hazardous waste facilities. Burning coal emits tons of mercury into the atmosphere. In February 1998, the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) issued a report citing mercury emissions from electric utilities as the largest remaining anthropogenic source of mercury released to the air. EPA officials estimated that about 50 tons of elemental mercury are emitted each year from U.S. coal-burning powerplants, with lesser amounts coming from oil- and gas-burning units. According to EPA estimates, emissions from coal-fired utilities account for 13 to 26 percent of the total (natural plus anthropogenic) airborne emissions of mercury in the United States. Ahem...that's 100,000 pounds of Hg (mercury) released into the United States alone each year from coal-burning power plants. This does not count other coal-burning countries. According to the EPA, this was as much as a quarter of all mercury pollution. So, using a mercury-containing bulb to reduce electric consumption may not be a bad idea after all--just don't break the bulb! Blessings, Green Cochoa.
We can receive of heaven's light only as we are willing to be emptied of self. We can discern the character of God, and accept Christ by faith, only as we consent to the bringing into captivity of every thought to the obedience of Christ. And to all who do this, the Holy Spirit is given without measure. In Christ "dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily. And ye are complete in Him." [Colossians 2:9, 10.] {GW 57.1} -- Ellen White.
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Re: Your health is under attack!
[Re: Rosangela]
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09/18/09 03:35 PM
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How can we advocate amalgam tooth fillings, when they are more mercury than silver? Yes, but the alternative is not much better. Composite resins use Bisphenol A. This leaves us with few options. Gold and ceramics?
Galatians 2 21 I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain.
It is so hazardous to take here a little and there a little. If you put the right little's together you can make the bible teach anything you wish. //Graham Maxwell
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Re: Your health is under attack!
[Re: Green Cochoa]
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09/18/09 03:45 PM
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I would agree with that, Rosangela. I didn't make it clear in my earlier post, but I probably wouldn't think of using ice unless the cold water had failed to bring the fever to a safe level, and the fever were going above 106. Hospitals might also be using ice by this point, in addition to drugs. However, it appears that the conventional wisdom may be shifting on this. I just read some very nice points regarding fever, apparently posts by medical folk, here: http://allnurses.com/general-nursing-discussion/packing-child-ice-285582.htmlOn another note, for those who suffer with asthma, I have learned that when a child is suffering enough from an asthma attack as to be breathing retractively (quick, shallow breaths more like gasps, which are getting insufficient air), a sudden, "cruel" dip in cold/ice water can clear up the asthma and, at least for a time, open up the airways. The child, of course, will cry to be treated this way, but it's a good thing to keep in mind in the absence of more "comfortable" treatments (e.g. inhalers). The drugs in the inhalers have some distinct side effects which few people bother to focus on because, of course, the alternative to using them during a severe attack can be much worse. Off-topic, but interesting: Here in Taiwan, they say that 90% of asthmatic children are allergic to dust mites. Stores here will sell things like mite-free pillowcases and bedding, etc. to help reduce the mite problem. I never remember hearing much about dust mites before coming to Taiwan. In America, we usually think of pollen and peanuts.Blessings, Green Cochoa. If the child cries, he breathes, which means mission accomplished? It is interesting if the causes of asthma are specific to region. It would suggest that there is more to it than only a bad reaction to the reagent.
Galatians 2 21 I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain.
It is so hazardous to take here a little and there a little. If you put the right little's together you can make the bible teach anything you wish. //Graham Maxwell
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Re: Your health is under attack!
[Re: Green Cochoa]
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09/18/09 05:15 PM
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So, using a mercury-containing bulb to reduce electric consumption may not be a bad idea after all--just don't break the bulb! But what happens when all the coal plants are no longer?
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Re: Your health is under attack!
[Re: kland]
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09/18/09 05:28 PM
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But what happens when all the coal plants are no longer? Wonderful! Then maybe we can go back to living a more agrarian lifestyle. Blessings, Green Cochoa.
We can receive of heaven's light only as we are willing to be emptied of self. We can discern the character of God, and accept Christ by faith, only as we consent to the bringing into captivity of every thought to the obedience of Christ. And to all who do this, the Holy Spirit is given without measure. In Christ "dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily. And ye are complete in Him." [Colossians 2:9, 10.] {GW 57.1} -- Ellen White.
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Re: Your health is under attack!
[Re: Green Cochoa]
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09/18/09 06:08 PM
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huh?
My point was all the mercury still in all the lightbulbs spread around.
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