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Re: Individual & Corporate Worship
[Re: Rosangela]
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06/16/09 07:43 PM
06/16/09 07:43 PM
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Yes, I did have Hebrews 10:25 in mind.
What does Hebrews 10:25 mean by "not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together"?
Does it mean that we should be found in church on the Sabbath?
Does it also mean that God frowns on us not being found in church on the Sabbath?
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Re: Individual & Corporate Worship
[Re: Tom]
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06/16/09 07:55 PM
06/16/09 07:55 PM
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Individual worship allows devotional time of prayer and study, but corporate worship is what Christ himself designed for sharing our personal insights, to gain and offer views on truth.
That includes values of music used and shared, not forgetting the careful selection of worship music.
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Re: Individual & Corporate Worship
[Re: Daryl]
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06/16/09 08:19 PM
06/16/09 08:19 PM
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Yes, I did have Hebrews 10:25 in mind.
What does Hebrews 10:25 mean by "not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together"?
Does it mean that we should be found in church on the Sabbath?
Does it also mean that God frowns on us not being found in church on the Sabbath? Yes, it means that Christ came to establish a Church on earth, not individual followers. And the Church exists to fulfill a mission that just individual believers can't fulfill - to preach the gospel of the Kingdom throughout the whole world. In a world in which it is ever easier to isolate ourselves from one another, Christ said, "By this all will know that you are My disciples, if you have love for one another" (John 13:35). It is our love for one another which will convince the world of the power of God's love in our lives, and enable us to fulfill the mission He gave us. But if we don't even want to be with our brethren, what does this say about us?
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Re: Individual & Corporate Worship
[Re: Rosangela]
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06/16/09 08:59 PM
06/16/09 08:59 PM
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The point I was making has to do with not taking into account the well-being of others. As Colin said: Corporate worship is what Christ himself designed for sharing our personal insights, to gain and offer views on truth. We can't share our personal insights, to gain or offer to others, if we're not in contact with them. If one thinks in terms of one's own self only, one could just stay home. But if one thinks in terms of others, you can't bless others by staying home (and even for ourselves, we'd be short-changing ourselves of the blessings we could receive from others).
Those who wait for the Bridegroom's coming are to say to the people, "Behold your God." The last rays of merciful light, the last message of mercy to be given to the world, is a revelation of His character of love.
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Re: Individual & Corporate Worship
[Re: Tom]
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06/16/09 11:28 PM
06/16/09 11:28 PM
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I agree, which is why going to Sabbath School and church each Sabbath is on the top of my Sabbath priority list.
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Re: Individual & Corporate Worship
[Re: Daryl]
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06/17/09 02:01 AM
06/17/09 02:01 AM
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Does the Bible and/or the writings of EGW have anything to say about this? Just finished this chapter for SS last week: We sustain a loss when we neglect the privilege of associating together to strengthen and encourage one another in the service of God. The truths of His word lose their vividness and importance in our minds. Our hearts cease to be enlightened and aroused by their sanctifying influence, and we decline in spirituality. In our association as Christians we lose much by lack of sympathy with one another. He who shuts himself up to himself is not filling the position that God designed he should. The proper cultivation of the social elements in our nature brings us into sympathy with others and is a means of development and strength to us in the service of God. {SC 101.2}
If Christians would associate together, speaking to each other of the love of God and of the precious truths of redemption, their own hearts would be refreshed and they would refresh one another. We may be daily learning more of our heavenly Father, gaining a fresh experience of His grace; then we shall desire to speak of His love; and as we do this, our own hearts will be warmed and encouraged. If we thought and talked more of Jesus, and less of self, we should have far more of His presence. {SC 101.3}
By God's grace, Arnold
There is no excuse for any one in taking the position that there is no more truth to be revealed, and that all our expositions of Scripture are without an error. The fact that certain doctrines have been held as truth for many years by our people, is not a proof that our ideas are infallible. Age will not make error into truth, and truth can afford to be fair. No true doctrine will lose anything by close investigation. RH 12/20/1892
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Re: Individual & Corporate Worship
[Re: asygo]
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06/20/09 10:51 AM
06/20/09 10:51 AM
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Yes, this week's Sabbath School lesson study topic is all about "church community" involving not only Sabbath worship, but also in daily church ministry.
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Re: Individual & Corporate Worship
[Re: Daryl]
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11/14/09 12:49 AM
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so what does it mean if my attending "Church" does not fulfill the previously stated results/actions for attending Church?
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Re: Individual & Corporate Worship
[Re: D R]
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11/14/09 01:14 AM
11/14/09 01:14 AM
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If you're talking about SC 101, that means the church you're attending is not fulfilling God's plan for it. It means it is time to change your church.
By God's grace, Arnold
There is no excuse for any one in taking the position that there is no more truth to be revealed, and that all our expositions of Scripture are without an error. The fact that certain doctrines have been held as truth for many years by our people, is not a proof that our ideas are infallible. Age will not make error into truth, and truth can afford to be fair. No true doctrine will lose anything by close investigation. RH 12/20/1892
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Re: Individual & Corporate Worship
[Re: asygo]
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11/14/09 05:28 PM
11/14/09 05:28 PM
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Not every church is a perfect match for every person. It doesn't mean there is something wrong with the church if it isn't the right match for everyone. However, if you don't feel comfortable because certain members have treated you unfairly or in an ungodly way, and the normal, healthy, biblical conflict resolution approaches fail to yield satisfactory results - then it's time to move on. Sometimes the grass is greener on the other side. But don't expect to find the perfect church. Remember, humans are in attendance there. And, if you do find the perfect church, please do them a favor and attend church elsewhere. Why ruin a good thing, eh!
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