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Re: Why do we sin?
[Re: asygo]
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05/11/10 02:42 PM
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Tom, I suppose it depends on the person. For some it is easier to be saved.
Kland, if something is a sin then it must be avoided entirely.
Arnold, amen!
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Re: Why do we sin?
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Tom, I suppose it depends on the person. For some it is easier to be saved. This doesn't seem like it would be fair. I recall reading somewhere in the SOP that God gives special doses of grace for those in difficult circumstances. The wording is right here, but the idea is that God has a special burden for those in difficult environments, and gives them extra grace to help them, something like that.
Those who wait for the Bridegroom's coming are to say to the people, "Behold your God." The last rays of merciful light, the last message of mercy to be given to the world, is a revelation of His character of love.
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Re: Why do we sin?
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05/11/10 08:56 PM
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The Bible says, "And if it is hard for even the good man to get salvation, what chance has the man without religion or the sinner?" (1 Peter 4:18, BBE).
It also says, "Because narrow is the gate and difficult is the way which leads to life, and there are few who find it" (Matthew 7:14).
"Genuine conversion brings us daily into communion with God. There will be temptations to meet, and a strong undercurrent drawing us from God to our former state of indifference and sinful forgetfulness of God. No human heart can remain strong without divine grace. No man can remain converted unless he takes care of himself and the Master has a care for him. Unless the heart holds fast to God, and God holds fast to him, he will become self-confident and exalted and will surely stumble and fall." {TDG 277.1}
In my opinion it's easier to be lost than to be saved. But it doesn't seem to me that it's easier for some people to be saved than for others.
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Re: Why do we sin?
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05/11/10 10:06 PM
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Kland, if something is a sin then it must be avoided entirely.
I guess the statement I was making was that sin is rebellion. But going with what you said and before you said sin is eating too much. The alcoholic says he doesn't drink too much. I'm taking you are implying any amount of alcohol is sin. What about chocolate, sugar, or anything else you know is unhealthy - even if it tastes good? Would that be rebellion?
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Re: Why do we sin?
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It's easy for us to believe bad news. But the truth is that Christ's yoke is *easy* and His burden is light. Yet do not therefore conclude that the upward path is the hard and the downward road the easy way. All along the road that leads to death there are pains and penalties, there are sorrows and disappointments, there are warnings not to go on. God's love has made it hard for the heedless and headstrong to destroy themselves. It is true that Satan's path is made to appear attractive, but it is all a deception; in the way of evil there are bitter remorse and cankering care. We may think it pleasant to follow pride and worldly ambition, but the end is pain and sorrow. Selfish plans may present flattering promises and hold out the hope of enjoyment, but we shall find that our happiness is poisoned and our life embittered by hopes that center in self. In the downward road the gateway may be bright with flowers, but thorns are in the path. The light of hope which shines from its entrance fades into the darkness of despair, and the soul who follows that path descends into the shadows of unending night. Galatians 5 tells us that the Spirit fights against the flesh, so that we would not do the (bad) things that we would. It's true we have sinful flesh (as did Christ) which would tend to draw us away from God, but the good news is that the Spirit is stronger than the flesh. However, to the extent that we have false concepts in relation to God's character, that does indeed make things more difficult.
Those who wait for the Bridegroom's coming are to say to the people, "Behold your God." The last rays of merciful light, the last message of mercy to be given to the world, is a revelation of His character of love.
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Re: Why do we sin?
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05/13/10 06:32 PM
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Tom,
I don't think that being in the midst of a war could be classified as something easy. Yes, serving Christ (taking His yoke) is easy - He is altogether lovely. The difficult part is being fiercely and constantly beset by temptations. I agree that the Spirit is stronger than the flesh, but still we have a struggle to face, and this is not easy.
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Re: Why do we sin?
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05/13/10 09:44 PM
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We weren't talking about whether or not there is effort involved, but with whether it is easier to serve God, or fight against Him. It seems to me the testimony of inspiration is that it's easier to fight with God than against Him.
Those who wait for the Bridegroom's coming are to say to the people, "Behold your God." The last rays of merciful light, the last message of mercy to be given to the world, is a revelation of His character of love.
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Re: Why do we sin?
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05/14/10 01:27 PM
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Weren't we speaking about whether it's easier to be lost than to be saved? Then we can't exclude from the picture the opposition we have to face. It's easier to travel with the wind than against it.
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Re: Why do we sin?
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05/14/10 07:38 PM
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However, it is easier in a car than on a bicycle.
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Re: Why do we sin?
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05/14/10 08:04 PM
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Isn't serving God vs. fighting against Him discussing whether it's easier to be saved or lost? (serving God = saved; fighting against Him = lost) By answer the question of whether it's easier to serve God, or fight against Him, we are answering the question of whether it's easier to be saved or lost. We can't exclude from the picture the opposition we have to face. This is right, and who is the more formidable opponent? Isn't it God? It's easier to travel with the wind than against it. This is what I'm saying, isn't it? That's it's easier to travel with God than against Him?
Those who wait for the Bridegroom's coming are to say to the people, "Behold your God." The last rays of merciful light, the last message of mercy to be given to the world, is a revelation of His character of love.
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