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Re: Diabetes
[Re: Green Cochoa]
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02/12/12 03:29 PM
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No apology there - try Grease in your EGW search engine?
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Re: Diabetes
[Re: gordonb1]
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02/13/12 02:16 AM
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Eliminate grease, oils and animal fats from the diet (EGW). ... No apology there - try Grease in your EGW search engine?
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Sure thing. GREASE, n.- Animal fat in a soft state; oily or unctuous matter of any kind, as tallow, lard; but particularly the fatty matter of land animals, as distinguished from the oily matter of marine animals.
- A swelling and gourdiness of a horse's legs, occasioned by traveling or by standing long in a stable.
Grease was obviously animal fat. That is prohibited in Leviticus 3:17, along with blood. But I don't see Mrs. White as saying the same thing ever about "oils." Where did you find that part? Blessings, Green Cochoa.
We can receive of heaven's light only as we are willing to be emptied of self. We can discern the character of God, and accept Christ by faith, only as we consent to the bringing into captivity of every thought to the obedience of Christ. And to all who do this, the Holy Spirit is given without measure. In Christ "dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily. And ye are complete in Him." [Colossians 2:9, 10.] {GW 57.1} -- Ellen White.
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Re: Diabetes
[Re: Green Cochoa]
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02/24/12 01:09 AM
02/24/12 01:09 AM
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Dodge Diabetes
A study at the Harvard School of Public Health found that people who ate a little more than 3 ounces a day of unprocessed red meat like steak and ground beef were 19% more likely to have type II diabetes. And those who had a mere 1.8 ounce of processed meat, such as hot ogs and bacon, a day increased their risk to 51%. Replacing those foods with healthier proteins like nuts, whole grains, etc. lowered the risk of type 2 diabetes by up to 23%. --Natural Health, February 2012.
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Re: Diabetes
[Re: Suzanne]
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02/20/13 12:30 AM
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Diabetes sufferer switched to vegan diet, blood sugar stabilized after 10 days
by Antonia
(NaturalNews) Eliminating meat and dairy, and including fruit smoothies and orange juice into the diet, has helped one woman normalize blood sugar levels.
"I have diabetes and I was very worried that more carbs and fruit and less protein would mean my blood sugar would be harder to manage," said the senior member at Mothering.com.
Additionally, the woman reports increased energy, weight loss and improved digestion. Her body is rejecting some medications, and it appears it is handling her skin issues (scalp psoriasis, rash, acne, pimples) on it's own, albeit very aggressively.
Legumes lower blood pressure and improve blood sugar
A study that appeared in Online First by Archives of Internal Medicine involving 121 people with Type II diabetes, who were on anti-diabetic medication, split the group between those who increased legumes by at least one cup per day, and those who increased the amount of whole wheat foods.
The results of the study caused the authors to support the consumption of legumes. "Legume consumption of approximately 190 grams per day (one cup) seems to contribute usefully to a low-GI diet and reduce CHD risk through a reduction in BP," said David J.A. Jenkins, MD, of the University of Toronto and St. Michael's Hospital.
Eating raw nuts can stave off diabetes, as well as heart disease
Many dieters begin to consume more nuts as they switch to more of a raw food and/or vegan diet. As it turns out, this could be a leading factor in the numerous studies showing improved symptoms for diabetics who choose the vegan lifestyle.
"Adding one ounce of mixed nuts to the diet daily can help reduce obesity, blood pressure, and blood sugar that are all markers of metabolic syndrome that can lead to Type II diabetes and heart disease," said Kathleen Blanchard, RN, reporter for eMaxHealth.
Blanchard adds, "nuts are also packed with antioxidants to support overall health and reduce inflammation that accompanies chronic diseases like diabetes."
Many health researchers say it is more about what you take away, than what you add, to the diet, that can improve health. But as the member of Mothering.com points out, "more carbs and fruit" did not have any negative effects on her blood sugar levels, when some medical personnel might suggest the opposite as being true.
Sources for this article include:
http://www.mothering.com http://www.emaxhealth.com/1275/recipe-type-2-diabetes-more-beans http://www.edmontonjournal.com http://www.emaxhealth.com/1020/nutty-way-control-diabetes-mellitus http://www.emaxhealth.com
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Re: Diabetes
[Re: Suzanne]
#149874
02/20/13 12:55 PM
02/20/13 12:55 PM
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Diabetes sufferer switched to vegan diet, blood sugar stabilized after 10 days
by Antonia
(NaturalNews) Eliminating meat and dairy, and including fruit smoothies and orange juice into the diet, has helped one woman normalize blood sugar levels.
"I have diabetes and I was very worried that more carbs and fruit and less protein would mean my blood sugar would be harder to manage," said the senior member at Mothering.com.
Additionally, the woman reports increased energy, weight loss and improved digestion. Her body is rejecting some medications, and it appears it is handling her skin issues (scalp psoriasis, rash, acne, pimples) on it's own, albeit very aggressively.
Legumes lower blood pressure and improve blood sugar
A study that appeared in Online First by Archives of Internal Medicine involving 121 people with Type II diabetes, who were on anti-diabetic medication, split the group between those who increased legumes by at least one cup per day, and those who increased the amount of whole wheat foods.
The results of the study caused the authors to support the consumption of legumes. "Legume consumption of approximately 190 grams per day (one cup) seems to contribute usefully to a low-GI diet and reduce CHD risk through a reduction in BP," said David J.A. Jenkins, MD, of the University of Toronto and St. Michael's Hospital.
Eating raw nuts can stave off diabetes, as well as heart disease
Many dieters begin to consume more nuts as they switch to more of a raw food and/or vegan diet. As it turns out, this could be a leading factor in the numerous studies showing improved symptoms for diabetics who choose the vegan lifestyle.
"Adding one ounce of mixed nuts to the diet daily can help reduce obesity, blood pressure, and blood sugar that are all markers of metabolic syndrome that can lead to Type II diabetes and heart disease," said Kathleen Blanchard, RN, reporter for eMaxHealth.
Blanchard adds, "nuts are also packed with antioxidants to support overall health and reduce inflammation that accompanies chronic diseases like diabetes."
Many health researchers say it is more about what you take away, than what you add, to the diet, that can improve health. But as the member of Mothering.com points out, "more carbs and fruit" did not have any negative effects on her blood sugar levels, when some medical personnel might suggest the opposite as being true.
Sources for this article include:
http://www.mothering.com http://www.emaxhealth.com/1275/recipe-type-2-diabetes-more-beans http://www.edmontonjournal.com http://www.emaxhealth.com/1020/nutty-way-control-diabetes-mellitus http://www.emaxhealth.com
Suzanne Suzanne, I will give you some insight from what has happened since a few weeks ago. I went off the cliff with my blood sugar, something went wrong with my system, and I started rolling past 400 in blood sugar even eating a piece of bread. I was loosing sight, hearing, and it seemed as if my body just quite working. I had given up on the doctors as after 40 years they just would repeat the mantra, 'just diet and excercize and you'll be fine. So I went to my close brothers and sisters in my my church who have prayed with me many a time when it seemed nothing else could help. Well I found out that most of them had quietly and with no fanfare, started going vegan. So I tried it and with diet and exercize and prayer, I have stabilized and this morning I was at 172, still bad but better than 460........
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Re: Diabetes
[Re: Rick H]
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02/20/13 04:11 PM
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The simplest rule of thumb in curing diabetes is "calories in, calories out." If you eat it, you need to burn it. If you're not going to use it, don't eat it. Even the smallest increase in waist size (where the extra, "unneeded" calories get stored) increases the risk of diabetes significantly. This naive notion assumes a calorie is a calorie is a calorie. Nothing could be farther from the truth. 100 calories of beef burger (if it is indeed beef) is not the same as 100 calories of broccoli. Assuming a calorie is a calorie ignores the other constituents of food such as fiber and other cellular elements. What other elements? Many. The rule of thumb with diabetes is not calories in/out. But rule of thumb is eat plants, the less processed the better. Whole plants will naturally be lower in over all calories, but also will have all the fiber, and will lack many of the other constituents that drive inflamation and obesity such as arachidonic acid and neuraminic acid, just to name a few. You also avoid the retroviruses that meat contains. And one element which is coming more into focus are the micro-RNAs which ALL food contains, plant or animal. Plants suppress cancer growth and meat drives it as shown by Dean Ornish, MD at UCSF in prostate cancer. Adventist should know that plants are the way to go. See 14MR 296 and following!!! Will the Lord work a miracle to counteract the evils of a meat diet? He cannot do this, for in so doing He would dishonor His name.
Oh, that men might open their minds to know God as he is revealed in his Son! {ST, January 20, 1890}
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Re: Diabetes
[Re: APL]
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02/20/13 04:56 PM
02/20/13 04:56 PM
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APL,
You seem to have missed the point. Your assumption that not all calories are equal is well understood. But it is naive to think that someone will consume the same number of calories of broccoli as of beef. One would have to have a rather large stomach to accomplish such a feat.
The point that you missed was one word: exercise.
Diabetics typically don't get enough of it.
Blessings,
Green Cochoa.
We can receive of heaven's light only as we are willing to be emptied of self. We can discern the character of God, and accept Christ by faith, only as we consent to the bringing into captivity of every thought to the obedience of Christ. And to all who do this, the Holy Spirit is given without measure. In Christ "dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily. And ye are complete in Him." [Colossians 2:9, 10.] {GW 57.1} -- Ellen White.
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Re: Diabetes
[Re: Green Cochoa]
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02/20/13 06:17 PM
02/20/13 06:17 PM
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Green - this is one of the points of a plant based diet over a meat diet. Whole plants give you bulk of fiber and fill you up. literally! Of course, eating plant bases will reduce your calorie count. But not all calories are the same. If you get your calories as fructose vs glucose, the effects are very different. Eating 100 calories of beef, does not give you just 100 calories of beef, but also all the other components that come with the beef, such as Neuraminc Acid, specifically Neu5Gc which drives inflamation, and thus cancer, heart diesase, etc. A calorie is not a calorie is not a calorie. Period. Exercise. Sure - we need exercise. But please consider how many calories do you expend walking 1 mile? An average size human will expend about 120 calories. How many calories are there in a 12 oz can of soda? 160? How long does it take to walk 1 mile vs drink one can of soda? Exercise is good. Diet is BY FAR more important. See this: http://nutritionfacts.org/video/is-it-the-diet-the-exercise-or-both/
Oh, that men might open their minds to know God as he is revealed in his Son! {ST, January 20, 1890}
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Re: Diabetes
[Re: Green Cochoa]
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02/21/13 05:52 PM
02/21/13 05:52 PM
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APL,
You seem to have missed the point. Your assumption that not all calories are equal is well understood. But it is naive to think that someone will consume the same number of calories of broccoli as of beef. One would have to have a rather large stomach to accomplish such a feat.
The point that you missed was one word: exercise.
Diabetics typically don't get enough of it.
Blessings,
Green Cochoa. So true, no matter how many times I get up from my desk at work and fast walk through the building or run in place, I cant burn the same as when I am on the farm digging a post hole or carrying bales of hay. So no matter how many times the doctors give their mantra, 'diet and exercize', its not a cure all for everyones lifestyle, and of course if you inheret it, nothing will take it away.
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Re: Diabetes
[Re: APL]
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02/22/13 11:41 PM
02/22/13 11:41 PM
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APL, You haven't seen the charts that I've seen. Look at America and then superimpose over its map a map of where the highest incidence of diabetes is. You will learn a lot. Americans in general have the same diet everywhere. It's not as though vegans are concentrated in one area and carnivores in another. (I imagine you would agree with this.) What then can account for the relative lack of diabetes in mountainous states like Colorado versus the much higher incidence in urban areas? Of course, only vegans live in Colorado, and in Minnesota they're all vegetarians, right? Well, if that's not the case, then what accounts for the incidence we see in the maps? Different diet? or different lifestyle? (See map below for details.) Oh, and waist size is directly correlated as well. Look how those who are more physically fit compare with the above map. Exercise. It does a body good. Blessings, Green Cochoa.
We can receive of heaven's light only as we are willing to be emptied of self. We can discern the character of God, and accept Christ by faith, only as we consent to the bringing into captivity of every thought to the obedience of Christ. And to all who do this, the Holy Spirit is given without measure. In Christ "dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily. And ye are complete in Him." [Colossians 2:9, 10.] {GW 57.1} -- Ellen White.
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