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Re: A New Creationist Cosmological Model "The First Flash" [Re: JCS] #125905
06/16/10 03:31 AM
06/16/10 03:31 AM
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An interesting little note on my resultant time-space graph. The resulting spiral shape fulfills the criteria for what is called a "normal Archimedean spiral" (also known as the arithmetic spiral.)

Re: A New Creationist Cosmological Model "The First Flash" [Re: JCS] #125942
06/19/10 07:52 PM
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I hope someone is actually studying what's being posted here. Look at Revelation 16:12. This is the sixth bowl of wrath is on the Euphrates river, causing it to be "dried up".

The Euphrates river is a symbol of something. Look at the beginning of chapter 15 (of which first introduces the seven plagues) and you will notice that the topic originates as a sign from heaven.

There is indeed a heavenly symbol for the Euphrates river. Can you guess what it is? The Milky Way, our galaxy. If anyone wants to wait until the light from our galaxy starts disappearing like smoke before you're willing to believe my dire warning, you will have been six plagues too late in preparing for the latter rain.

When the sixth plague hits, nearby light from the stars will disappear completely. Light from distant objects have already started disappearing in 2008. The heavenly sanctuary is being cleansed. Now is the time to prepare the way for Jesus' coming.

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Re: A New Creationist Cosmological Model "The First Flash" [Re: JCS] #125964
06/21/10 02:01 PM
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JCS, I came across the following in GC pg. 676:
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The light of the sun will be superseded by a radiance which is not painfully dazzling, yet which immeasurably surpasses the brightness of our noontide. The glory of God and the Lamb floods the Holy City with unfading light. The redeemed walk in the sunless glory of perpetual day.

This sounds like light which isn't light. In thinking about what you are saying, could there be different types of light along with different speeds? If we assume that all creation (meaning creation as it relates to us on earth wink ) has been affected by sin, that the moon and the sun are not as bright as they were, that even our solar system may have been affected due to the proximity of sin, could we assume that further away is less affected and that perhaps light from distant objects could be relatively untainted by sin and therefore that light exhibits different characteristics? Assuming that our sin-tainted eyes can see some spectrum from that light, could that light travel faster than light we know about?

Do you think anything like that could come into play with your model?



Regarding stars disappearing, is there something about them in scientific journals I can read? I bet that would cause wide concern and can't be blamed on global warming. Or BP.

Re: A New Creationist Cosmological Model "The First Flash" [Re: kland] #125967
06/21/10 06:35 PM
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"could there be different types of light along with different speeds?"

Most certainly. If I'm right, the glory emanating from God is angular gravitational energy that can actually tunnel through dimensionless voids.

"could we assume that further away is less affected and that perhaps light from distant objects could be relatively untainted by sin and therefore that light exhibits different characteristics?"

Interesting, it's possible.

"could that light travel faster than light we know about?"

Well, the trick to the First Flash model is "resultant acceleration" caused by matrixing together linear and curved dimensions. Beyond this, it is difficult for me to speculate on what is unknown. Considering the infinite creativity of the creator, it would be foolish of me to limit God on this. There is talk in theoretical circles of things like tachyons and Cerenkov radiation that have superluminal velocities.

By the way, Cerenkov radiation was in fact detected by a Russian physicist in 1934. It has an analog to a sonic boom when comparing light to sound. Thus one would expect a tachyon that is traveling faster than light to emit Cerekov radiation.

There are two principle ways that radiation can effectively travel between two points over a measured period of time faster than the "speed of light". Dimensionally short cutting areas of space, and by a change in temporal frequency.

Bottom line, I do not know.

"Do you think anything like that could come into play with your model?"

It's very possible. It's been my objective to utilize only proven facts as definitive proofs to the model, but I do avidly study theoretical concepts in an effort to find new leads. Using these leads, I then search for evidences supporting or disproving these new concepts. I'll search to see what I can find on this.

I did find this interesting topic:
http://www.scientificamerican.com/blog/post.cfm?id=faster-than-light-electric-currents-2010-06-18

http://arxiv.org/abs/0903.0399

"Regarding stars disappearing, is there something about them in scientific journals I can read?"

Yes there is. The disappearing objects are visible galaxies furthest away from us. One should take note, this information is carefully handled by the scientific community to project alternate viewpoints from the same data. Basically, one count of distant objects was made and then a second count, later on, resulting with a smaller number. There are a million and one ways to distort and alter the perceptions and meaning to this data including blatant deception.

This article touches on some of the key points:
http://articles.adsabs.harvard.edu//full/1998MNRAS.296..585F/0000585.000.html

I'm working to sort out the best journals on this subject. There are several overlapping studies with data relating to disappearing light from distant objects. As far as finding simple magazine articles, there are even more to sort from.

this journal reveals some more data on the subject though it is difficult to glean:

http://adsabs.harvard.edu/full/2003MNRAS.342L..47B

A simple internet search for disappearing galaxies brings up several alternate non journal topics.




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Re: A New Creationist Cosmological Model "The First Flash" [Re: JCS] #125969
06/21/10 08:18 PM
06/21/10 08:18 PM
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I found this article to be very interesting.

http://www.dailygalaxy.com/my_weblog/2008/01/scientist-says.html

The reason I find it interesting is because of a concept I have relating to the four living creatures in Ezekiel and Revelation. My concept is that these four living creatures represent the four dimensional properties that govern the visible universe; linear time, linear space, curved time, curved space.

In Revelation 15:7, one of these creatures gives the seven angels the seven vials of wrath. Thinking in line with what the First Flash model predicts as far as a rapidly expanding universe, the one dimension that begins to destabilize near the end is curved time.

The link points to a similar account.

Re: A New Creationist Cosmological Model "The First Flash" [Re: JCS] #125978
06/22/10 12:00 AM
06/22/10 12:00 AM
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Here are some additional links relating to disappearing galaxies:

http://adsabs.harvard.edu/full/1995MNRAS.274..832P

This site is apparently Islamic and yet it seems to reveal many physical principles of the First Flash model. (Note: one should always be cautious of false religious systems so as to avoid deception.)

http://www.speed-light.info/speed_of_light_effective.htm

After looking carefully,I discovered a new component to the First Flash model on this web site. Apparently the Quran also has texts with day/thousand year equations. On this site, someone cleverly discovered that if you calculate the distance the Moon travels in kilometers, as it orbits the Earth, and divide this by the number of seconds per day, you obtain the speed of light.

This adds an entirely new layer to my model. Another interesting element to this is that when I switch the 1000 year value in my original 2 Peter 3:8 equation, the result will equal 1.

I'll try to illustrate. In this new light equation, 1000 years = 12,000 months = 25,831,348,035.086 km of which the Moon travels in that time.

A sidereal day = 86,164.0906 sec. The dist/time= 299,792.49 km/sec. (A very excellent approximate to the speed of light.) Considering the possibility of measurement error, it's close enough.

My 2 Peter 3:8 equation is:

(day * 1000 years) * (day/1000 years)= day^2

The day value is for time passed. If years are used, the answer must be multiplied by 365.25

When all of these values are transitioned with the one's for light, the answer = 1.

Of course, this is basic algebra.

If A/B=C, then C * B/A = 1.

If I had looked more closely when comparing my old 2 Peter 3:8 equation with my more refined "First Flash" equation, I could've discovered the relationship between 1000 years and linear space relative to the speed of light myself. I doubt that I would've ever considered the motion of the Moon even though it really is a required element when trying to calculate frame drag.

Re: A New Creationist Cosmological Model "The First Flash" [Re: JCS] #125990
06/22/10 12:09 PM
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Most fascinating. I haven't read all on the links yet and probably will only be able to comprehend the abstract and conclusion as I am afraid most will be wasted on me, but I had no idea. Looks like this would be making the headlines.

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There are a million and one ways to distort and alter the perceptions and meaning to this data including blatant deception.
Except for the obvious part of them teaching everyone in school about the big bang and the universe is expanding and this would contradict it, do you see any other reason why they would attempt to cover this up? Is a stable universe, everything has preceded at the same rate forever, really detrimental to evolution or anti-God? Or should time slowing give them cause to not admit it? Just trying to understand possible motivations.

Re: A New Creationist Cosmological Model "The First Flash" [Re: kland] #125991
06/22/10 02:01 PM
06/22/10 02:01 PM
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"do you see any other reason why they would attempt to cover this up?"

When someone has an incorrect mind set, it's easy for them to draw false conclusions from gathered data or decide that the change in measured data reveals an error in how the data was retrieved.

On the point of errors, I noticed an error of my own.

Quote:
(day * 1000 years) * (day/1000 years)= day^2
The day value is for time passed. If years are used, the answer must be multiplied by 365.25
When all of these values are transitioned with the one's for light, the answer = 1.


For some reason my mind thought that this change was effectively C * B/A when in actuality it reduces to A * B * C.

I'm apparently mentally distracted due to personal concerns.

Re: A New Creationist Cosmological Model "The First Flash" [Re: JCS] #125992
06/22/10 02:07 PM
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For why data is interpreted or ignored as error, Thomas Kuhn's book "The Structure of Scientific Revolutions".


Galatians 2
21 I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain.

It is so hazardous to take here a little and there a little. If you put the right little's together you can make the bible teach anything you wish. //Graham Maxwell
Re: A New Creationist Cosmological Model "The First Flash" [Re: vastergotland] #126046
06/25/10 05:28 AM
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I'll have to read it some time.

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