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Re: Lesson #3 - All Have SINNED
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07/20/10 11:21 PM
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Paul wasn't writing of his present experience. E.g. It is not enough to perceive the loving-kindness of God, to see the benevolence, the fatherly tenderness, of His character. It is not enough to discern the wisdom and justice of His law, to see that it is founded upon the eternal principle of love. Paul the apostle saw all this when he exclaimed, "I consent unto the law that it is good." "The law is holy, and the commandment holy, and just, and good." But he added, in the bitterness of his soul-anguish and despair, "I am carnal, sold under sin." Romans 7:16, 12, 14. He longed for the purity, the righteousness, to which in himself he was powerless to attain, and cried out, "O wretched man that I am! who shall deliver me from this body of death?" Romans 7:24, margin. Such is the cry that has gone up from burdened hearts in all lands and in all ages. To all, there is but one answer, "Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world." John 1:29. {SC 19.1}
Many are the figures by which the Spirit of God has sought to illustrate this truth, and make it plain to souls that long to be freed from the burden of guilt. Just FYI.
Those who wait for the Bridegroom's coming are to say to the people, "Behold your God." The last rays of merciful light, the last message of mercy to be given to the world, is a revelation of His character of love.
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Re: Lesson #3 - All Have SINNED
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07/21/10 03:22 PM
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Are born-again believers, who are engaged in Bible study and prayerful contemplation of the closing scenes of Christ's life, simultaneously quilty of committing a sin? If so, which sin or sins are they guilty of committing? This sounds like you're asking if one is guilty of sinning simply by virtue of having a sinful nature. Is this what you mean? Your question, as posed, doesn't have enough information to answer. One could only answer, "maybe." For example, if a person were doing so for selfish motivations, they could be.
Those who wait for the Bridegroom's coming are to say to the people, "Behold your God." The last rays of merciful light, the last message of mercy to be given to the world, is a revelation of His character of love.
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Re: Lesson #3 - All Have SINNED
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I suspect Arnold and Rosangela would say, Yes, we are guilty of sinning because we possess sinful flesh nature. If so, then I disagree.
Let me qualify the above question by clarifying the born-again believer in question is also actively, aggressively abiding in Jesus, actively, aggressively walking in the Spirit and mind of the new man, actively, aggressively partaking of the divine nature. So, here's the new and improved question:
Are born-again believers (see clarification above), who are engaged in Bible study and prayerful, selfless, unadulterated contemplation of the closing scenes of Christ's life, simultaneously guilty of committing a sin or sins? If so, what is an example of a sin or sins they could be guilty of committing while engaged in the aforementioned activity?
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Re: Lesson #3 - All Have SINNED
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I suspect Arnold and Rosangela would say, Yes, we are guilty of sinning because we possess sinful flesh nature. If so, then I disagree. I think if this is what you wish to know, that's what you should ask.
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Re: Lesson #3 - All Have SINNED
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07/22/10 05:39 PM
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Does "all have sinned" mean everyone sins all the time in one way or another? It means our character is imperfect. " Imperfection of character is sin, and sin is the transgression of the law." {TMK 131.2} And, in particular does it include the people and time and circumstances I specified above? [That is] the born-again believer [who] is also actively, aggressively abiding in Jesus, actively, aggressively walking in the Spirit and mind of the new man, actively, aggressively partaking of the divine nature "Love rejoices in the truth and institutes no envious comparisons. He who possesses love compares only the loveliness of Christ and his own imperfect character." {COL 402.1} "Christ will be with every minister who, although he may not have attained to perfection of character, is seeking most earnestly to become Christ-like." {SpTA01a 2.2} Ellen White is evidently speaking of born-again believers here. Only a born-again believer "possesses love," and only a born-again believer "is seeking most earnestly to become Christ-like." But she is clear that these born-again believers still possess an imperfect character. That's why "Works will never save us; it is the merit of Christ that will avail in our behalf. Through faith in Him, Christ will make all our imperfect efforts acceptable to God." {FW 48.3}
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