Is this what you meant to say? Or did you mean to say:

a.The future is in our reality wide open (multi-threaded).
b.The future is in God's reality is not wide open (instead, it's single-threaded).

M:As we live and breathe, the future is wide open.

T:What does this mean? Does is mean something different than "The future is, in reality, wide open"? I hope so, because this is the question I'm asking. Otherwise you're answering some other question which I'm not asking. If so, please answer the question I am asking.

M:Yes, as we live and breathe, the future is, in reality, wide open.

We are totally, completely, absolutely free to choose as we please.

The risks were real.

... the chances He would sin and fail was 0%.

the possibility of incurring loss or misfortune

But the chances He would choose to sin or abandon the plan of salvation were nil.

It never once occurred to Jesus to deliberately sin or to abandon the plan of salvation. Yes, He was tempted to sin and to abandon the plan of salvation, but He didn't hesitate or waver between wanting to and not wanting to. God forbid!!!! He instantly, immediately, and resolutely resisted sin, self, and Satan.

By the way, what do you believe? Do you believe Jesus knew with absolute certainty He would succeed? Or, do you believe He didn't know for sure? Citing passages which speak of risk and peril may or may not mean Jesus didn't know with absolute certainty He would succeed.

Please answer the following question with a yes or no:

Was Jesus 100% certain He would succeed on the cross?

M: I don't know why the Godhead elected to create the FMAs they knew with absolute certainty would sin and die. . . . [post truncated and quotes omitted by Tom]

T: You've made clear you don't know why you believe what you do regarding the idea you have. I don't think your idea makes sense, and you apparently don't either. If at some point you see some sense for why you believe what you do, you could share that, and we could continue our discussion. Until then, I invite you to consider that possibility that your thinking might be wrong. You may be simply misinterpreting the passages which lead you to the conclusions you don't understand.

I think having a point of view that one understands in regards to the problem of evil is preferable, especially as this is a subject which weighs so heavily on the minds of so many. Many people want to know how an all-powerful, all-loving God could create such a world as we have, full of suffering and injustice. As SDA's, we have a wonderful answer to give, which involves the Great Controversy. Saying that God created beings He was certain would sin isn't an answer that satisfies.

M:The following inspired insights make it clear the Godhead chose to create FMAs even though they knew precisely which ones would sin and die.

I hear you saying, no, God did not know with absolute certainty who would sin and die. You say God knew all the possible outcomes and that some of them involved all FMAs sinning and dying. You also say God risked it hoping none of them would sin and die. Personally, I think this view of God portrays Him as impotent and reckless.

T:Everybody's experiences are unique. That should especially so for God doesn't seem difficult to understand.

M:Why does God's experience in time and space include experiences ours cannot?

T:Again, everybody's experiences are unique.

M:Please be specific. What is it about God that makes you agree His experience in time and space includes experiences ours cannot?

M: Please be specific. What is it about God that makes you agree His experience in time and space includes experiences ours cannot?

T: Well, there's a million things that make God different than we are, and would impact His experience. To name just one, He's smarter than we are.

I don't understand why you won't answer my question. Just having fun?

I've been trying to get an answer to this question for 2 or 3 weeks. Is there some reason you won't answer the question?



I didn't ask anything about this.

M: The risks were real.

T: This means there was a chance of failure. This contradicts what you wrote here: "... the chances He would sin and fail was 0%." Perhaps you don't understand the meaning of the word risk(?). Here's the definition: "the possibility of incurring loss or misfortune." Do you see how this is the opposite of "the chances He would sin and fail was 0%"?

M: But the chances He would choose to sin or abandon the plan of salvation were nil.

T: There we go again! A contradiction one sentence right after the other.

M: It never once occurred to Jesus to deliberately sin or to abandon the plan of salvation. Yes, He was tempted to sin and to abandon the plan of salvation, but He didn't hesitate or waver between wanting to and not wanting to. God forbid!!!! He instantly, immediately, and resolutely resisted sin, self, and Satan.

T: You're saying it was easy for Jesus? That is, to make the decision as to what to do? He didn't have to think hard about it. Is this correct?

M: By the way, what do you believe? Do you believe Jesus knew with absolute certainty He would succeed? Or, do you believe He didn't know for sure? Citing passages which speak of risk and peril may or may not mean Jesus didn't know with absolute certainty He would succeed.

T: I don't understand this. If there was risk involved, that means there was a chance of failure. Indeed, the sentence reads "at the risk of failure." So how can you take this to mean something other than there was a chance Christ wouldn't succeed?

M: Please answer the following question with a yes or no: Was Jesus 100% certain He would succeed on the cross?

T: I believe Jesus Christ knew He was taking a risk, that there was a chance He would fail.

M: Please be specific. What is it about God that makes you agree His experience in time and space includes experiences ours cannot?

T: Well, there's a million things that make God different than we are, and would impact His experience. To name just one, He's smarter than we are.

M:God is simultaneously aware of everything everyone everywhere thinks and feels every second of every minute of every day. How is this physically possible?

The future is wide open.