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Re: Is there a relation between Christ's assumed human nature and rightesousness by faith? [Re: Mountain Man] #129738
12/20/10 09:15 AM
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Originally Posted By: Mountain Man
Originally Posted By: mtimber
4. They then received the outpouring of the Holy Spirit at Pentecost (the latter rain), which was to give them power for evangelism.

The official SDA position concerning the "latter rain" prophecy/experience makes it clear it hasn't happened yet. Do you agree with this position?

You might want to join the study on this link.


I think the corporate experience is still to come.

It will be linked to the individual experiences many will have.

I believe that some have already had that experience.

There are two layers to this, one corporate and one personal.

Re: Is there a relation between Christ's assumed human nature and rightesousness by faith? [Re: mtimber] #129747
12/20/10 06:50 PM
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Mark, thank you for explaining it more thoroughly.

Re: Is there a relation between Christ's assumed human nature and rightesousness by faith? [Re: mtimber] #129771
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Lets try the biblical approach. Can you make your a-b-c case above by the bible?


Let's consider the 1260 days. This represents a period of spiritual drought, where the 1260 days = 3 1/2 years, extended from the 3 1/2 years of the drought in Elijah's time, which was itself in extension of the 3 1/2 months from the regular agricultural cycle. Do you disagree with any of this?


Those who wait for the Bridegroom's coming are to say to the people, "Behold your God." The last rays of merciful light, the last message of mercy to be given to the world, is a revelation of His character of love.
Re: Is there a relation between Christ's assumed human nature and rightesousness by faith? [Re: Tom] #129776
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Tom,

Lets try a biblical approach where it is possible for you to quote chapters of appropriate books, rather than one where you start by an interpretation of a concatenation of apocalyptic prophecy.


Galatians 2
21 I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain.

It is so hazardous to take here a little and there a little. If you put the right little's together you can make the bible teach anything you wish. //Graham Maxwell
Re: Is there a relation between Christ's assumed human nature and rightesousness by faith? [Re: vastergotland] #129778
12/22/10 04:42 PM
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I took something like 6 or 8 classes while at school over several years, and there's just too much material to cover in this sort of forum. I've tried to provide some direction for how you could research this on your own, if you're interested, and I would be happy to do more along these lines.


Those who wait for the Bridegroom's coming are to say to the people, "Behold your God." The last rays of merciful light, the last message of mercy to be given to the world, is a revelation of His character of love.
Re: Is there a relation between Christ's assumed human nature and rightesousness by faith? [Re: asygo] #129799
12/23/10 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted By: asygo
We are to walk by faith, not by sight. We believe, not because we have seen, but because God has said.

Arnold, I am hoping and praying you are not covered in mud. All the rain and mud is making a mess of things all around you.

Re: Is there a relation between Christ's assumed human nature and rightesousness by faith? [Re: Tom] #129801
12/23/10 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted By: Tom
I took something like 6 or 8 classes while at school over several years, and there's just too much material to cover in this sort of forum. I've tried to provide some direction for how you could research this on your own, if you're interested, and I would be happy to do more along these lines.
So what is the next step?


Galatians 2
21 I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain.

It is so hazardous to take here a little and there a little. If you put the right little's together you can make the bible teach anything you wish. //Graham Maxwell
Re: Is there a relation between Christ's assumed human nature and rightesousness by faith? [Re: Mountain Man] #129819
12/24/10 01:59 AM
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Originally Posted By: Mountain Man
Arnold, I am hoping and praying you are not covered in mud. All the rain and mud is making a mess of things all around you.

Rain and mud abound, but all is well where I am. Just a little scare yesterday with the water level in the backyard getting a bit too high for comfort.


By God's grace,
Arnold

There is no excuse for any one in taking the position that there is no more truth to be revealed, and that all our expositions of Scripture are without an error. The fact that certain doctrines have been held as truth for many years by our people, is not a proof that our ideas are infallible. Age will not make error into truth, and truth can afford to be fair. No true doctrine will lose anything by close investigation. RH 12/20/1892
Re: Is there a relation between Christ's assumed human nature and rightesousness by faith? [Re: asygo] #129824
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Arnold, thank you for the report. Good to know. Parts of Highland got hammered. Things are okay here in Long Beach. Merry Christmas.

Re: Is there a relation between Christ's assumed human nature and rightesousness by faith? [Re: Mountain Man] #129835
12/25/10 11:52 AM
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What is the situation in the Palm Springs area?


In His Love, Mercy & Grace,

Daryl smile

John 8:32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.

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