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Osteoporosis
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09/30/10 10:08 PM
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Osteoporosis, (Bone Loss)
Protein from Meat and Bone Loss
Postmenopausal women who lose excess weight through a high-protein diet are more likely to also experience bone loss if they get most of their protein from meat rather than other sources. This according to a July 2010 study by researchers at Purdue University. Good nonmeat sources of protein include beans, low fat dairy products, and tofu. --Consumer Reports on Health, October 2010.
Comment: And don't forget nuts.
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Re: Osteoporosis
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Osteoporosis
North America has an extremely high rate of this progressive bone-thinning disease which affects at least 25 million--80% of them women. Brittle, chalky bones can cause chronic back pain, fractured hips, spines and limbs and a host of other problems. Bone loss in the jaws and tooth sockets (pyorrhea) is especially prevalent, causing loose teeth and receding gums--a major cause of tooth loss in adults. What causes this painful, disabling, frequently occurring, socially costly metabolic disease? A dietary calcium deficiency comes to mind first, however there is more to the story than this.
* Medical scientists have shown that the typical American high meat diet actually flushes calcium right out of the body. An article in the American Journal of Clinical Nutrition, points out that it has been known for over 70 years that a high protein meat diet increases the amount of urinary calcium.
* Bogart, Brigts and Calloway, writing in Nutrition and Physical Fitness, explain that when too much meat and other high protein foods are eaten, sulfuric, phosphoric and other acids are produced. The body seeks to neutralize these excess acids by drawing on the alkali reserves--calcium and other alkaline or base-forming elements of the body. These also include magnesium, zinc, boron and other minerals involved in the health of the bones and teeth.
* The American Journal of Clinical Nutrition, March 1983 reported the results of the largest study on bone density in the U.S. Researchers at Michigan State and other major universities found that by the age of 65:
Male vegetarians had an average measurable bone loss of 3%.
Male meat-eaters had an average measurable bone loss of 7%.
Female vegetarians had an average measurable bone loss of 18%.
Female meat-eaters had an average measurable bone loss of 35%
* These and similar findings were confirmed and reaffirmed in a report from the Third International Congress on Vegetarian Nuitrition, March 1997, held at Loma Linda University. Researchers pointed out that the lower the dietary protein (especially animal protein) and the lower the salt intake, the less dietary correction and the more efficient the calcium in the diet becomes. The reason being that when a low-protein (vegetarian) diet, low salt diet is utilized less calcium is lost in the urine compared to the loss on a high-meat, high salt diet. The excess sulfur amino acids in animal protein compromise calcium balance. For each hamburger eaten, approximately 23 milligrams of calcium are lost in the urine. --The Journal of Health and Healing, Vol. 20. No. 2, 1997.
* More confirmation is found in a report published in the Lancet, by several medical scientists, commenting on work sponsored by the U.S. Dept. of Health and Harvard University. They called the association of meat-based diets with the increasing incidence of osteoporosis "inescapable." The more protein you use, the more calcium you lose and osteoporosis is the sure result.
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Re: Osteoporosis
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Osteoporosis, con't.
OTHER RISK FACTORS
Other risk factors join the high meat diet in causing a deterioration of the bones and teeth.
* Phosphates and other acids in soft drinks rob the bones of calcium. --The National Osteoporosis Foundation, Wash. D.C.
* Excess coffee increases calcium loss. Even 1 or 2 cups daily can contribute to osteoporosis. --Let's Live, Novenber 1992, p. 12.
* A lack of exercise leads to thinner bones. --Prevention, August 1986.
* Alcohol, cigarettes and many other drugs have a similar effect. --Prescription for Nutritional Healing, 2nd edition.
PROTECTIVE FACTORS
* A correct vegetarian diet with emphasis on adequate calcium and other minerals is most important in guarding against this crippler. Researchers using double isotope analysis demonstrated that calcium availability in kale and select green vegetables are the number one natural source of top-grade calcium. (Observe the strong, massive bones and muscles of the grass and plant eating elephant, rhino, hippo, buffalo, horse and cow--no lack of protein, calcium or other minerals here!) Olther plant-based sources include fortified soy milk, broccoli, dried figs, almonds, whole grains, legumes, blackstrap molasses, seeds and nuts.
* Other critical nuitrients that build and preserve bone health include magnesium, phosphorus, silicon, zinc, manganese, boron, copper and vitamin D ( the sunshine vitamin). Vitamins C, E, and K also play vital roles in battling osteopososis. Calcium retention in the bones is also favored by adequate weight-bearing exercise such as brisk walking.
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Re: Osteoporosis
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10/01/10 01:19 PM
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North America has an extremely high rate of this progressive bone-thinning disease And where is the most milk drunk? Maybe milk is hurting (high protein) and sure doesn't appear to be helping.
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Re: Osteoporosis
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Go Green for Bone Health
Vegetables are a good source of calcium, particularly for those who do not consume much milk. Korean scientists analyzed the diets of postmenopausal women and determined that "high dietary intake of calcium, especially plant calcium, reduces the risk of osteoporosis and increases bone mineral density. Vegetables may be an important source of calcium and may also provide vitamins and minerals that exert additional benefical effects on the bone." The body does not produce calcium. The mineral is abundant in dark green veggies, including kale and broccoli. --Taste for Life, May 2011.
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Re: Osteoporosis
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Maybe I'm a bit late to the discussion, but we Adventists should not be ignorant of one of the major contributing factors to osteoporosis. Mrs. White told us about it. "This is the effect of calomel. It torments the system as long as there is a particle left in it. It ever lives, not losing its properties by its long stay in the living system. It inflames the joints, and often sends rottenness into the bones. It frequently manifests itself in tumors, ulcers, and cancers, years after it has been introduced into the system." {2SM 449.3} So what is this "calomel?" Here is its definition, from Webster's 1828 Dictionary: CALOMEL, n. A preparation of mercury, much used in medicine. It is called the submuriate or protochloride of mercury, and is prepared in various ways, by sublimation or precipitation, and also in the dry way. The following are the directions given in the last London Pharmacopoeia. Take of muriated quicksilver one pound, and of purified quicksilver, nine ounces; rub them together till the globules disappear; then sublime, and repeat the sublimation twice more successively. Blessings, Green Cochoa.
We can receive of heaven's light only as we are willing to be emptied of self. We can discern the character of God, and accept Christ by faith, only as we consent to the bringing into captivity of every thought to the obedience of Christ. And to all who do this, the Holy Spirit is given without measure. In Christ "dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily. And ye are complete in Him." [Colossians 2:9, 10.] {GW 57.1} -- Ellen White.
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Re: Osteoporosis
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A few years ago I was watching Lifestyle Magazine. One of our doctors, I don't remember who, was asking a representative of the dairy industry about Osteoporosis. The doc commented that our country had the highest consumption of dairy products and also the highest incidence of osteoporosis. He ask the rep. why.
The rep said, "It is obvious that the American women aren't drinking enough milk." So help me, that is what he said.
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Re: Osteoporosis
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Indicating that women of other countries are drinking enough milk which seems to contradict the idea that America consumes the most, leaving: only men consume more milk? Kind of reminds you of those who say, that little bit of mercury won't hurt you (regarding vaccinations and fluorescent lights) while at the same time worrying about coal plants giving off mercury.
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Re: Osteoporosis
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>>Indicating that women of other countries are drinking enough milk <<
No. That was one of the points the Adventist doctor made. Asian women wern't drinking ANY milk and had NO osteoporosis.
(My experiment with the gmo corn has started. I finally found a sorce of both types. An Amish and a regular farmer. I know them both well. The regular farmer, Larry, uses "Roundup Ready". The Amish, Simon, uses Golden Bantom, a self polinating corn they have used for years.)
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Re: Osteoporosis
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06/13/11 03:21 PM
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Sorry, but that was what I was trying to say, that women who aren't drinking, or at least drinking much less milk, are drinking enough.  In other words, the rep wasn't making sense and that's what you said. Glad to hear you have the materials for the experiment. Looking forward to hear the results. I've just read an advertisement about GMO corn making chickens sick. Something about that ad didn't make me want to believe they tested it, though.
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