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Re: The Father created Jesus, then later promoted Him to divinity?
[Re: gordonb1]
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Some propose that Christ could not be Divine if he were God's Son.
Is this not presumption? Are we God's counsellor? (Romans 11:34)
Could the Sovereign of the Universe bring forth anything less than Divinity?
No, the Son had all the attributes of His Father.
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Re: The Father created Jesus, then later promoted Him to divinity?
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Imagine if we allowed a man to have a son, with the strict provision that the son would not possess his father's character or attributes.
Such would be impossible, it contravenes natural order.
Thus Christ is Divine by Inheritance.
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Re: The Father created Jesus, then later promoted Him to divinity?
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No, the Son had all the attributes of His Father.
Including immortality?
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Re: The Father created Jesus, then later promoted Him to divinity?
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On earth, Satan did not dispute Christ as the Son of Man.
Rather, he questioned His Divinity as the Son of God: "If thou be the Son of God.." Matthew 4:3.
"And if he [Satan] could tempt Him to question His sonship, and doubt the truth of the word spoken by His Father, he would gain a great victory." 1 Selected Messages 275
What word spake the Father?
"This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased." Matthew 3:17
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Re: The Father created Jesus, then later promoted Him to divinity?
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We are warned not to speculate on "exactly how Jesus came into existence", remember ??? Where is this warning?
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Re: The Father created Jesus, then later promoted Him to divinity?
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Could the Sovereign of the Universe bring forth anything less than Divinity?
No, the Son had all the attributes of His Father. Such a view precludes self-existence. Someone who was brought to existence by someone else can't be defined as self-existent.
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Re: The Father created Jesus, then later promoted Him to divinity?
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We are warned not to speculate on "exactly how Jesus came into existence", remember ??? Where is this warning? Referring to His incarnation.
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Re: The Father created Jesus, then later promoted Him to divinity?
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Ah, OK. So it has nothing to do with this discussion.
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Re: The Father created Jesus, then later promoted Him to divinity?
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But if Jesus had been created, the best thing He could be would be an angel (promoted into the Godhead). Maybe that's what annoyed Lucifer so bad.
"All that is Gold does not Glitter, Not all who Wander are Lost." (J.R.R.T.)
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Re: The Father created Jesus, then later promoted Him to divinity?
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Could the Sovereign of the Universe bring forth anything less than Divinity?
No, the Son had all the attributes of His Father. Such a view precludes self-existence. Someone who was brought to existence by someone else can't be defined as self-existent. Not so Rosangela, self-existence is different from self-origination. Christ did not have to 'eat from the Tree of Life'. _________________________________
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