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Re: The Broadness of the Ten Commandments [Re: Peter L] #139306
01/30/12 04:05 PM
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Thank you.

Re: The Broadness of the Ten Commandments [Re: Tom] #139321
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Since sin is by definition the transgression of the law, this is a tautology. With such a definition, an imperfect law could still cover every possible sin, since anything not covered by the law would, by definition, not be a sin. So to make a statement like this, there would need to be available an alternative definition of sin to compare against.

I know that. But many say that the law says nothing about things that are considered wrong, like, for instance, slavery and polygamy.

Re: The Broadness of the Ten Commandments [Re: Rosangela] #139331
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There are three definitions of sin:

1. "Whatsoever is not of faith is sin" (Romans 14:23).

2. "To him that knoweth to do good, and doeth it not, to him it is sin" (James 4:17).

3. "Sin is the transgression of the law" (1 John 3:4).

Re: The Broadness of the Ten Commandments [Re: Mountain Man] #139337
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The three mean the same thing, for when you transgress the law you are not acting in faith, nor are you doing good.

Re: The Broadness of the Ten Commandments [Re: Rosangela] #139352
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True. Eight out of ten commandments begin with "Thou shalt not". According to Rom 14:23 it is possible to do the right thing for the wrong reasons. As such, doing the right thing is a sin. Which commandment accommodates this kind of sin?

Re: The Broadness of the Ten Commandments [Re: Mountain Man] #139365
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It depends, but any kind of sin is at least a transgression of the 1st an the 10th commandments. If you do the right thing in order to achieve a selfish purpose, you are coveting, and you are putting your will above God's will.

Re: The Broadness of the Ten Commandments [Re: Rosangela] #139385
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Good point. James wrote, "Whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all."

Re: The Broadness of the Ten Commandments [Re: Rosangela] #139492
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Originally Posted By: Rosangela
If you do the right thing in order to achieve a selfish purpose, you are coveting, and you are putting your will above God's will.

Hence, the commandments have more to do with WHY one does something than WHAT one does.

It is interesting to note that coveting is purely internal; you cannot "do" something to show others that you are or are not coveting.


By God's grace,
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There is no excuse for any one in taking the position that there is no more truth to be revealed, and that all our expositions of Scripture are without an error. The fact that certain doctrines have been held as truth for many years by our people, is not a proof that our ideas are infallible. Age will not make error into truth, and truth can afford to be fair. No true doctrine will lose anything by close investigation. RH 12/20/1892
Re: The Broadness of the Ten Commandments [Re: asygo] #139498
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Yes, which also shows that the wrong desire is sin.

Re: The Broadness of the Ten Commandments [Re: Rosangela] #139557
02/07/12 05:18 PM
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Yes. Hence, our sinful passions and desires must be crucified, and not just our sinful actions. (Galatians 5:24)

Paul also tells us in Romans 7:7 that it was the 10th commandment that helped him realize the true nature of sin and of the commandments.

Last edited by asygo; 02/07/12 05:21 PM.

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There is no excuse for any one in taking the position that there is no more truth to be revealed, and that all our expositions of Scripture are without an error. The fact that certain doctrines have been held as truth for many years by our people, is not a proof that our ideas are infallible. Age will not make error into truth, and truth can afford to be fair. No true doctrine will lose anything by close investigation. RH 12/20/1892
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