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Question on creation of man
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04/14/13 01:38 AM
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Today at church I had a bit of a disagreement with a member. He said that the different races of man was created on Day 6 of creation. I said no way that only Adam and Eve were created. When he instisted I just told him he was wrong. He kept saying that if I would read it in Hebrew I would believe it.
Has anyone heard of this theory and how he could come to such a conclusion as this?
Avalee
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Re: Question on creation of man
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04/14/13 03:40 PM
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Haven't heard of it, but the DNA existed in A&E for the all races. Telling someone to read it in Hebrew is akin to saying "I know better".
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Re: Question on creation of man
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04/14/13 05:16 PM
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I dont think I will discuss it with him anymore as he is to argumentive. I just wanted to know if anyone else had run across this belief somewhere. I just dont see how he can believe such a thing. I myself have never heard of it before. When he was talking it sounded like he meant that God created all the races on day 6. His reasoning was that something in Hebrew about Adam meant more than one? He said that if you taught that only Adam and Eve were created on Day 6 you were teaching error.
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Re: Question on creation of man
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04/14/13 05:53 PM
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Avalee, if it is any support, I have never heard of this theory in a Christian context. It does show up in some Native religions and primitive Origin Myths, but not in Christianity.
It is certainly not supportable from Scripture or EGW.
(Yea, Yea, I know, Green Cochoa. Your suprised that I put EGW there. Despite our conversation, I know what she says, and she doesn't say this.)
Last edited by JAK; 04/14/13 05:54 PM.
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Re: Question on creation of man
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04/14/13 06:56 PM
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He said that if you taught that only Adam and Eve were created on Day 6 you were teaching error. If there were more people, how were them involved in the sin of Adam and Eve?
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Re: Question on creation of man
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04/14/13 07:30 PM
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Today at church I had a bit of a disagreement with a member. He said that the different races of man was created on Day 6 of creation. I said no way that only Adam and Eve were created. When he instisted I just told him he was wrong. He kept saying that if I would read it in Hebrew I would believe it.
Has anyone heard of this theory and how he could come to such a conclusion as this?
Avalee I heard a pastor from the SDA church say the same thing at an evangelistic seminar. He is wrong, the races came from the son's of Noah. Shem, Ham and Japhet. But I do not believe one was Asian and one Black and one white, there was more of a division of the racial characteristics at the confusion of the languages at the tower of Babel. God divided the characteristics of the different races from that day, giving each of the subgroups their own distinct language base. This was when the races evolved.
Search me oh God and know my heart, test me and know my anxious thoughts, see if there is any offensive way in me and lead me to the way everlasting. Amen
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Re: Question on creation of man
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04/14/13 07:36 PM
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He said that if you taught that only Adam and Eve were created on Day 6 you were teaching error. If there were more people, how were them involved in the sin of Adam and Eve? I thought of that very thing about an hour after I posted the above. Now why could I have not thought of that when he said all that. Very good observation Rosangela.
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Re: Question on creation of man
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04/15/13 08:25 PM
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The pastor at the evangelistic meeting that I was mentioning above, when I challenged him he said "this is advanced Adventist Theology" as if he knew something Ellen White did not and when I quoted the Spirit of Prophecy in front of the 200 people at the meeting, he said "that is not something we discuss in public" like the SOP is our dirty little secret, and he defended his position by saying "do you think God would have Adam's sons have sex with their sisters? He created more than Adam and Eve in the beginning" then would not let me counter. As if I was not worthy to debate.
This from a man who just baptised 10 people that day into our denomination. Then encouraged our elders to nominate women elders, which opened a whole can of worms from that day forward.
Avalee, these situations will strengthen your resolve to stand up for the truth in the future. Don't beat yourself up for not responding the way you would have liked.
If you did not think it at that moment, then God was not telling you to say it.
Mark 13:11 And when they bring you to trial and deliver you over, do not be anxious beforehand what you are to say, but say whatever is given you in that hour, for it is not you who speak, but the Holy Spirit.
So if it didn't come to you then and did after, it was because God wanted to encourage you in your resolve to think that was, but it probably would not have done any good at that moment.
Peace.
Search me oh God and know my heart, test me and know my anxious thoughts, see if there is any offensive way in me and lead me to the way everlasting. Amen
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Re: Question on creation of man
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04/16/13 03:14 PM
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he defended his position by saying "do you think God would have Adam's sons have sex with their sisters? Ha! Why not? He needs to read the rest of the Bible and see not only were people having sex with their sisters, but also their daughters! And why did He have to explicitly tell them to not do that anymore? Must be because they were.
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Re: Question on creation of man
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04/16/13 03:22 PM
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Today at church I had a bit of a disagreement with a member. He said that the different races of man was created on Day 6 of creation. I would agree... that the different races of man was created on Day 6 in Adam. Obviously he doesn't know much about genetics and so therefore he would be not be able to comprehend how all the races were in Adam. But, if he brings it up to you, one response could be to ask him what he knows about heterozygosity. And if he does seem to know, then ask him how many genes are involved in race.
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