I remember a time when I was about 14 yrs old and I got in trouble with the law and was brought to the police station for questioning. My parents came to get me and that's when I learned about my father being my advocate, which surprised me. Most of the time when I came in late he was my judge and I learned what punishment was

Sure, but every time I discuss the subject of IJ I'm approached with this question and it bothers me not to be able to provide a definitive answer.

Another passage:

He [the Lord] would have them [the people] realize man's accountability and responsibility in view of the future judgment. Then our Redeemer and Advocate will be our Judge. {GCB, April 1, 1899 par. 6}

Norman, this forum has 1223 registered users, but the great majority of them doesn't participate in the discussions. It's refreshing to see a new member making contributions. I hope you become a regular poster.

Hi Rosangela,

If you look at Samuel, he was a priest and a judge and so were the high priests. If you remember there were 6 cities of refuge set up for people to run to if they killed someone accidentally. The High Priest would here the case and make a ruling. Go back a little and you have Moses as the priest of the Israelites and he was their judge as well. The priest also made a declaration of those who were clean, that is judging.

All these are shadows of what Jesus would do. Just look at Revelation 14: 6 & 7 where you see a judgement going on while the Gospel is still being preached. If it is being preached then there must be a High Priest and Jesus is the One. Revelation 11:19 Tells us where Jesus is; The Most Holy Place. "And the temple of God was opened in heaven, and there was seen in his temple the ark of his testament: and there were lightnings, and voices, and thunderings, and an earthquake, and great hail."

Jesus can do more than one thing at a time, after all He is God. I believe this verse reveals that Jesus is both Judge and High Priest. Psalm 85:10 Mercy and truth are met together; righteousness and peace have kissed each other.

Mercy comes from a priest and a judge, Truth comes from a priest and a judge, righteousness comes from a priest and a judge, and peace comes from a priest and a judge.


Norman

I can't say that I will be a regular here because soon I am planning on taking some courses and that will restrict my time. The issue I have is that I tend to post long answers that take time and thought. I tune out and focus on my responses and have a hard time not getting annoyed when I'm interrupted. If I can learn to shorten that process that will help.

Norman

You will only learn if you practice, and you will only practice by participating in the discussions.

Norman,

Christ will be the Judge at the final judgment - not the Father. But who is the Judge at the IJ? The Father or Christ? The EGW quotes seem ambiguous.

Hi Rosangela,

these verses came to mind,

John 5:22 For the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son.

John 5:26 For as the Father hath life in himself; so hath he given to the Son to have life in himself; 27 And hath given him authority to execute judgment also, because he is the Son of man.

Notice that the reason Jesus does this is because He became one of us, "because He is the Son of man"

Norman

Yes, but take a look at the quote provided in post #152706 above, from GC 479.2.

Unless we understand this in the sense that the Father is the Judge but He chose to delegate the performance of this duty to His Son?